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- 03:04 About Dr. Sherri Tenpenny
- 07:28 The Vaccine Industry
- 11:45 Toxicity in Vaccines
- 15:44 Outbreaks
- 19:41 Vaccines and Cancer
- 22:11 Epidemics and Vaccines
- 24:58 Lack of controlled studies
- 26:53 Common Misconceptions
- 29:39 Mandatory Vaccination
- 32:40 Vaccines during pregnancy
- 37:17 Preservative-Free Vaccines
- 40:31 Most pressing health issue in the world today
- 42:43 Travel Vaccines
- 44:24 About Dr. Tenpenny’s Books
Wendy Myers: Welcome to the Live to 110 Podcast. My name is Wendy Myers. You can find me on Liveto110.com.
Today, we are interviewing Dr. Sherri Tenpenny. Her website is drtenpenny.com. Is that correct, Dr. Sherri?
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: Yes.
Wendy Myers: Okay, great, drtenpenny.com. We’re going to be talking about her favorite subject, which is the dangers of vaccines. Her mission is very clear. It’s to educate parents and professionals about problems associated with vaccines to ensure fully inform the consent and awareness about school and travel vaccination exemptions to create pressure to stop mandatory vaccination and allow freedom of choice to all. We’re going to talk about some of the hot issues surrounding vaccines today.
But first, I have to do our disclaimer. Please keep in mind that this program is not intended to diagnose or treat any disease or health condition and is not a substitute for professional medical advice (even though Dr. Tenpenny is a doctor). The Live to 110 is solely informational in nature, so please consult your healthcare practitioner before engaging in any treatment that we suggest on this show.
Dr. Penny is an osteopathic medical doctor, board certified in three medical specialties. She is the author of several books including Saying No to Vaccines and Vaccine Epidemic: How Corporate Greed, Biased Science and Coercive Government Threaten Our Human Rights, Our Health and Our Children.
Her articles about vaccine hazards had been translated into more than ten languages. Dr. Tenpenny has appeared on the Dr. Oz Show in addition to being a guest on hundreds of radio and television programs. She is a medical correspondent for WHDT TV with a daily health segment called Common Solutions for Common Health Problems. Dr. Tenpenny is a medical consultant for Parker Hannifin, a Fortune 200 company with 60,000 employees in 48 countries. She is a helping to develop a health conscious and a holistic program for the company’s location in the U.S. and around the world.
So Dr. Tenpenny, when do you sleep?
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: Thank you so much.
Wendy Myers: I wouldn’t think so much. Well, I appreciate you coming on the show. This is a very important subject to me because my own daughter was vaccine-injured and diagnosed with autism at about 2 ½ years old roughly. This is very close to my heart and I think it’s very important to warn people about the dangers of vaccines and that they do have risks.
Wendy Myers: So first, why don’t you tell the listeners a little bit about yourself and why you’ve become such an outspoken advocate of the dangers of vaccines.
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: Well, I grew up in a chiropractic family. I come from three generations of chiropractors where my grandfather, my father, three uncles and two cousins and so I wasn’t vaccinated growing up and neither were any of my cousins or now their kids or their grandkids, they’re not doing any of that. And so really, the vaccine issue was never really on my plate until I started my integrated medicine practice.
The first, I will say, the first career, the first part of my life, my first career was being a board certified emergency room doctor and the director of an ER for 12 years. And then I moved to Cleveland in 1996 and I opened an integrated medicine practice. And now we’ve had people there from almost all 50 states and from 12 or 14 countries from around the world to get well and get off their medications.
In September of 2000, I received a brochure in the mail to attend the National Vaccine Information Center’s meeting. I called them and said, “I don’t think I can come. When is your next one?” and they said, “Well, we may not ever have another one.” And so I decided to go to that conference.
While I was there, after four days of listening to MD’s and PhD’s and scientists and researchers and parents, there were over 700 people at that meeting, there were a lot of people with children in wheelchairs and very damaged children and the parents were saying it came from vaccines – particularly the pertussis vaccine. I just thought, “Wow! How did I miss this? I’ve been in conventional medicine since 1985. I’ve been doing integrative medicine since 1996. It’s now 2000… how did I miss this?”
So I came home and I started a quest to find out were there really problems associated with vaccines. And since that time, I’ve put in well over 18000 hours of my life reading the CDC documents, articles from conventional medical literature. There’s so much. There’s so many vaccines. Vaccines are always in development. There’s vaccine politics. There’s laws. There’s rules. There’s injuries. There’s government. There’s all sorts of things in that industry to keep up on and to keep being with.
And after all of those hours of studying, the conclusions that I’ve come to – so I’ll tell your listeners, I have to say that this is a studied opinion. It wasn’t just something I got off of conspiratology.com or some parent’s website – to say that vaccines are not safe, they’re not effective, they don’t protect you and yes, they absolutely can cause harm.
Wendy Myers: Yes. I hear that there 200 vaccines in the pipeline right now at least.
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: There are. There are. I think there’s about 20 right now that are in like stage three trials, most of them are headed towards adolescents and adults. And they’re not even for infections anymore. There are things like a vaccine for high blood pressure and one for periodontal disease, vaccines for OCD and obsessive-compulsive disease.
There’s this one that was Funvax that was going around for a while that was going to target a particular area in your brain for people who are fundamentalist or have too strong of an emotional reaction to either religion or politics.
And so they’re looking at vaccines as being the next wave because in the pharmaceutical industry, in the drug-base industry, most of the drugs that are in development now are what they call me-too drugs, which is another drug for pain or another drug for gastric reflex or another drug for erectile dysfunction. They’re all the same thing. It’s just a different brand because they’re out of things that they can do and they’ve already stuffed so many drugs into us they’re having difficulty.
In fact, the last four to five years, the vaccine arm of the pharmaceutical industry has been the largest growth factor to where it was growing 16%-18% annualized growth in terms of revenues and what they were doing globally. So that is the next thing that the drug companies are planning to stuff into is, more and more vaccines.
We’re just a repository of their widgets is really what we are. Symptom-free in the presence of a drug is not health. I think that that’s a really important thing to let people understand.
Wendy Myers: I’ve written several articles or a couple of articles on vaccines and I get a lot of comments about how the vaccine companies are not making any money on the vaccines. Some of them are even saying they’re going to have to go out of business if they have to keep producing them. What do you say to that? I don’t buy that. That seems so far-fetched.
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: They’re predicting it to be a $40 billion industry by 2020. If you go broke on $40 billion, I guess you need a new division manager or something. When I started this, it was about a $10 billion industry.
But see, I really believe (and I think there’s evidence to support this) that the vaccines are the economic cost-drivers of our healthcare system. So we know that a certain percentage of people who receive vaccines are going to have side effects from them. In fact, I would say that probably 90% of people have some sort of side effect. Something as simple as a sore arm or maybe a fever or some crankiness for a little while all the way up to seizure disorders, neurological disorders, reflux, all sorts of GI problems, insulin-dependent diabetes, kidney disease – the list goes on and on and on.
Let’s just make a number up here. Let’s say out of every 100 kids, children that get vaccinated, 20 of them have some sort of side effect that’s serious enough that they need to go to a specialist to get more test. They have to get an upper GI, a lower GI, an EEG, an MRI, all of those kids now have added money to the system and they all then get placed on some sort of medication for their seizure, for their reflux, for their diabetes, for whatever’s going on with them.
So I look at the vaccines in the pharmaceutical industry, if they say they’re not making any money (which I don’t believe), but they’re also almost like the economic lost leader. It’s like, “Come into my store, I’ll give you a free t-shirt. But while you’re there, you’re going to spend $600 on other types of things.” So the vaccines are kind of the economic driver, the underpinning.
And we know this because when you see the large number of unvaccinated children now and you talk to their parents, they say, “They’re never sick. They don’t need to go to the doctor.” I’ve got teenagers now that are in their early 20’s that were never vaccinated, they’ve maybe been on one antibiotic their entire life. They don’t need OT’s, PT’s, speech therapy, physical therapy, learn how to chew, swallow. They don’t need sensory integration techniques. They don’t need any of that. But the vaccinated kids do. So that’s the cost driver there that I think is really breaking the bank.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, I know. I know. My daughter, she’s in OT and physical therapy and speech therapy, et cetera. It’s four grand a month. I mean, the school she’s in and the cost of the therapy, et cetera after she was diagnosed with autism, I had to act fast and get her in a good school. It’s incredibly expensive. It’s amazing.
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: Yup. Now there’s an an of one. Now take that times the tens of thousands of kids that are now having to go through that. We didn’t see it a generation ago. We didn’t see it in your generation. We certainly didn’t see it in my generation. And now we’ve got young parents who almost look at those services like OT, PT, speech therapy, physical therapy, sensory integration things, food, teaching kids how to chew and swallow. It’s almost like they think of them as like a normal milestone. “Oh, yeah. My kid is in OT and PT.” It’s like part of growing up now just like you would say, “Oh, yeah. I take my kid to soccer. I take my kid to music lessons.” We somehow have co-opted even young parents brains into thinking that’s now just a normal part of growing up.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, yeah.
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: But part of it is because there’s so many kids doing it.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, I know. It becomes normal.
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: And when we see unvaccinated kids, they’re not in any of that or so rare that you can even count it. And we look at these unvaccinated kids as bright and chipper and they have good personalities and they’re easy-going and easy to get along with. We look at them like they are just something magical when really, that’s what normal is supposed to look like.
Wendy Myers: It’s concerning to me because we know that vaccines have mercury in them. They also have aluminum. There’s still a handful of vaccines with mercury even though a majority of vaccines don’t. There’s another neurotoxin that’s in vaccines now that’s causing, contributing to these health issues that children are having and that’s aluminum. So why is aluminum now in vaccines and what problems is it causing?
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: Well, aluminum has always been in the vaccines. How aluminum is supposed to work as an adjuvant is that when you inject a vaccine that has aluminum in it, aluminum is supposed to hold that vaccine solution in that place in the muscle for a long enough period of time that the white blood cells can go by it and can be sensitized to it enough to create an antibody. And without the aluminum to make a depot there, the solution would just disperse and you would have no antibody effect (which is another whole topic).
When you read the science about adjuvants and particularly the science about aluminum and vaccines, they state very clearly, even though we have been using a large amount of aluminum in vaccines since the 1920’s when they came out with the first tetanus and pertussis vaccines, they don’t know how it works. They don’t even know why it’s there. They think it does these things like I just described, but they don’t really know.
And so it’s just a very nasty neurotoxin. I believe that when they started taking the mercury out of the vaccines, they increased the amount of aluminum, that and the number of vaccines that are given is why the autism rate and the continued to rise.
Now parents are always concerned about autism and the conventional pediatricians will say there’s no connection even though we know for a fact there is. It’s been published in the medical journals about encephalopathy. The court has actually been awarded money in compensation for kids who have been injured by vaccines and had autism. We know of at least 12 cases that have been sealed with that.
What parents have to understand is, in my opinion, that is one of just the worst case scenarios about vaccine injury. There’s a long list of continuum of asthma, allergies, eczema, ADD, ADHD, insulin-dependent diabetes, a long list of neurological diseases. All of those different types of problems, autoimmune conditions that can be induced by all these vaccines.
Kids now get 78 vaccine antigens injected into their system by the time they’re six months of age. How any parent, first of all could do that and second of all, believe the pediatrician who says, “Oh, they’re harmless.” Sometimes, you’ll hear the story, they’re saying, “Well, there’s just a tiny little bit of aluminum. How can that be so harmful?”
Wendy Myers: That’s all you need.
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: Well, it’s all you need. Think about things like arsenic and B-venom and snake bites, it doesn’t take very much of that to kill you in some instances. So the quantity argument is just bogus. It really has no relevance at all.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, I know with my own daughter with her diagnosis of autism, I started detoxing her. I’ve been reading about health issues for years including autism. I knew exactly what to do, that I needed to detox her of heavy metals.
So I started doing my detox program that I do that I call Mineral Power now. And every hair mineral analysis, huge amounts of aluminum. She’s detoxing on every single hair test. She also has zinc deficiency, which causes autism as well.
Yeah, I was just blown away by how much aluminum was in her. And she didn’t even get that many vaccines. I had on her three at six months, three at nine months. I had her at the typical schedule – thre at 12 months and then three at 18 months. And that’s when I stopped it when I knew that she was having some sort of neurological reaction. The aluminum is definitely a huge problem that I wanted to address down the show.
Wendy Myers: But what about measles? There’s all these outbreaks in the media about measles and mumps. This tends to send people panicking, running to their pediatrician to get vaccinations. What is going on with these outbreaks and why should we not be so concerned about them?
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: If measles were such a deadly, horrible, disastrous disease, there wouldn’t be anybody around over the age of 50. We all had it growing up. We all had it an appropriate age.
And when you go backwards in time and you read information from the older medical journals, one that always sticks out of my mind about measles and specific was a 1940 of the Southern Medical Journal that talked about the symbiotic relationship between that virus and good health in human beings.
They actually had children who had a condition called nephrotic syndrome, which is where their kidneys leak protein and the protein, it causes lots of harm not only to the kidneys, but to their life because they’re losing all the protein from their blood.
In order to seal those basement membranes and make the nephrotic syndrome go away, they would induce measles in these kids. They would have a high fever and that high fever would seal out those basement membranes.
That’s one of several that it’s like we are supposed to have these illnesses as we grow up because it teaches our immune system to recognize the difference between self and non-self, what’s foreign, what’s us. These high fevers that come along when you’re about nine years of age locks in that immune system. You use both arms of the immune system.
The immune system has two sides. One is called TH1 and the other is TH2. They need to dance and work together to figure out a way to keep you from getting measles again and have this long-term immunity.
Well, vaccination is not long-term. It’s artificially-induced. The antibodies go away because they’re artificially induced. I believe that the antibodies do not protect you from the vaccine and the vaccine-induced antibodies is simply a marker of contamination.
And when you talk about these big epidemics, I don’t really think 330 out of 330 million is an epidemic. They never talk about any of these 330 kids that have a fever, a cough and a rash.
Wendy Myers: Oh, my gosh. Not that.
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: And so parents need to look what is really the illness about and can we treat them with chicken noodle soup and with high dose Vitamin C and with Vitamin A and keeping them home from school for a few days.
That’s the biggest thing. We have these parents now who think that OT, PT and speech therapy is a normal milestone and, “Oh, my gosh! My kid can never get sick. Oh, it will just be a travesty if they had a fever.”
Wendy Myers: Yeah. That’s how my husband is. He loses his mind. You have to be sick. You have to get sick to get a healthy immune system.
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: Exactly! And getting sick at the appropriate childhood ages. I think that’s one of the reasons why me and a lot of all my cousins who none of us were vaccinated and we all had those illnesses, we’re all in our 50’s and 60’s, nobody is on any prescription medications, nobody has any long-term disabilities, their kids are the same thing.
If you allow the immune system and when you allow the symbiotic relationship we have with the environment to work, then as you get older, health is an inside-out phenomenon. It comes from the inside.
We swim in bugs every day. if you have a dog or a cat or a cow or a horse and you go to the barn, just think of how much you’re surrounded by viruses and bacteria, you get it on your mouth and it’s on your food – oh, my goodness! We should all be just keeling over dead at any minute unless of course, we’re vaccinated.
Wendy Myers: That’s one thing that I really try to get the message out to people. Vaccines cause chronic immune disregulation because they stimulate the immune system in an improper way.
Like you said, we have two sides to our immune system, the cell-mediated and the humoral. I just don’t think people are making that connection between poor health and diseases like autoimmune and cancer in adulthood to the vaccines they received as a child (or even as an adult). Can you explain this very real risk to the listeners?
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: Well, there’s a couple of things. When you get sick, when you actually have measles, mumps, rubella, the flu, it gets into your system through your respiratory tract, it gets past your respiratory tract past your lymphatic, past your gut and into your bloodstream and then that’s recognized as a foreign invader. The reason you get fever is because we got to burn this thing out of here because that’s how we get rid of it. It’s because it lives at 98.6°, but it doesn’t live at 103° with a fever.
So that’s part of it. And then we send out these messengers molecules and all of these different things to create a reaction to clean out this invader.
And so if you don’t do that, if you don’t have an opportunity to clean out invaders, if you have things injected into your system, a foreign matter injected into your system that your body even on a fever doesn’t do anything with – and now they’re even telling parents to give your kids a dose of Tylenol before you bring them to the office to get their vaccines, so they don’t get a fever and be a little comfortable (my gosh, we can’t stand that, if our kids have a little discomfort).
And then the other things that are in the vaccines – I mean, there’s foreign stray viruses. These vaccines are made from animal cells, from chicken and cow and dog and monkey cells. We have these foreign viruses that were in those cultures that were getting injected into the system.
I’ve done several toxin and written a couple of scientific papers about these stray viruses that they know that are there and the risk of developing cancer down the road from these viruses that come from vaccine. They get incorporated into the human DNA. We’re actually destroying human DNA by our big fear of a fever, a rash, a cough and some diarrhea.
Wendy Myers: So what do you say to people that say that vaccines have prevented all these diseases, that without vaccinations, we would still have smallpox and all these other horrible diseases that did kill a lot of people? What do you say to them?
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: First of all, with smallpox, it is estimated that less than 10% of the global population was even vaccinated. It went away because of hygiene. The same thing with polio. The graph of the polio was way on the way out before a vaccine was even invented. And polio was not a synonym for paralysis. That’s another thing that we’ve come to be indoctrinated about, that if you get exposed to the polio viruses, you will definitely get paralysis and be paralyzed for life. The truth is that 98% of the people who get exposed to the polio virus actually have it look like the stomach flu and it just goes away.
And I would like to say to people, the CDC has never put up the money to do a vaccinated versus unvaccinated population study. I would like for them to prove that it really was the vaccines that made some of these illnesses go away or was it a change in our environment, change in hygiene, change in a lot of different things. You can’t prove a negative.
So somebody gets a flu shot and does not get a flu, is it because of the flu shot? Is it because they weren’t exposed? Is it because their immune system is healthy enough to make it go away?
We know statistically for an absolute fact (because I’ve done the numbers) because the viruses in the flu shot only match the viruses in circulation 16% of the time. So you can get a flu shot and still get the flu because it does nothing for you. And so the setbacks, the truth about the flu is you can get a flu shot and still get the flu or you get a flu shot and if you don’t get a flu, you can’t prove it was because of the flu shot.
You can say the same thing about pertussis, Hib, measles, mumps, rubella – even tetanus. The CDC put out a report on tetanus about every two years. Of that report, 16%, around 16% to 20% of people who contracted full-blown tetanus (which is not uniformly fatal, it’s a bad infection, you want to avoid if you can mostly by cleaning out the wound very well), 16% or more of the people that got full-blown tetanus had four or more tetanus shots. So what does that prove that tetanus shot did if you can get all of that take on the potential of a neurological and the cardiovascular complications and still get tetanus anyway?
Wendy Myers: So why do you think the CDC is not doing controlled studies like that?
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: They don’t want to know. Why would they want to know that they’re poisoning people? It’s making them much sicker than the parents who choose to fight the system and not poison their kids, why would they want to know that? The entire system would implode in a heartbeat.
If they did this huge study, well-controlled, well-designed – and just looked at things like missed days from school, number of doctors visit, number of daily chronic medications, are they getting any ancillary services – things that were very cut-and-dry. If you have an unvaccinated child, do they get PT, OT, speech therapy? No. The vaccinated kids, what percentage of them do – things that are very cut and dry and would not be subject to things like richer families versus poor families, wouldn’t have any income structure, they couldn’t really say it was because of the food they were eating, very strictly done.
Why would they want to know that? What if 80% of the vaccinated kids had all of these things, they were in daily chronic medicines, blah-blah-blah and 80% of the unvaccinated kids had none of them? Where would that put that industry?
And since the CDC is driven and the FDA is driven by the pharmaceutical industry and the revolving door of people who go to from the government to big paying jobs in the industry, why would they want to shoot their partner in the head?
Wendy Myers: It just blows my mind how in our government (in the United States) we can have that revolving door between the government [inaudible 00:26:36], the government and the FDA, the government and the big pharma, so that they have just completely infiltrated and it’s all about money and they control our government and our loss and ultimately, our health. It just makes me sick.
Wendy Myers: Another common complaint that I hear amongst mothers is when I tried to talk to some mothers about “maybe you might reconsider vaccination, look at what happened to my daughter,” they’re so ingrained, so indoctrinated, believe so wholeheartedly in vaccinations that they even feel that if their child plays with another child that hasn’t been vaccinated, that they’re putting their child at risk.
I have a girlfriend that she did a mother struggle with about 40 mothers. I would bring my daughter and I would hear other mothers like they don’t want unvaccinated children playing because they’re worried about their child being put at risk. What do you say to that?
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: I would always look at them and say, “Did you just hear what you just said? Just think about what you just said. You believe in vaccines. You think vaccines work and they keep your kids from getting sick. So the person who should be concerned would be the unvaccinated parent, right or the parent with the unvaccinated kid.
So if your kids are vaccinated and you think they work and they protect you, what are you concerned about? Just put it like right in their face. “Did you hear what you just said and how silly that is?” It’s really silly.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, and this is a big concern. Mothers and people in general have just been led to believe ta the vaccines do improve their child’s health, that it does protect them. I guess that’s just one of the most common fears that I hear from people, is that their child is at risk if they play with unvaccinated children. What about conversely? Is there a risk if your child is vaccinated and they play with their unvaccinated child. I’ve heard some things in that regard as well.
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: There are some greater risks from that particularly with the chicken pox vaccine because the chicken pox vaccine is a live virus. Statistically, they’ve reported over the years that about 3% of unvaccinated kids or immunosuppressed kid, if they’re around a child that has just recently had a chicken pox vaccine or a grandparent that’s had a shingle shot that those virus had shed and that they can contract chicken pox.
So chicken vaccine-induced chicken pox is a real thing. There’s a theoretical risk for rubella and for measles. I’m not really sure, but those are live virus vaccines also. So there’s a theoretical risk, but not statistically significant. But it really does happen with the chicken pox vaccine and the shingles vaccine.
Wendy Myers: That’s really interesting because I’ve had that question floating on my mind for some time.
Wendy Myers: So can you voice your concerns about mandatory vaccines. I hear of health workers that are threatened with their job basically under the table if they don’t submit to the flu shop. So who is funding and attempting to pass these mandatory vaccination laws? Are mandatory vaccination laws a possibility in the near future?
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: That’s a good question. I would suspect that the vaccine lobbyist are the people who are funding this pressure in the hospital systems. I don’t know who’s behind it, but you can kind of just follow the money and figure it out.
The U.S. government is the largest purchaser of vaccines in the world. They purchase more vaccines than anybody, which again goes to what we were talking about with the CDC and the FDA and the revolving door, right? So they purchase 70 million to 80 million of flu shots each year. There is a plethora of information in the conventional medical literature that says flu shots don’t work. Me getting a flu shot doesn’t keep you from getting sick. I saw this coming about five or six years ago, that they were heading in this direction. What they do is they fill up these kind of obscure journals like the public health journals and all these things with these articles. And then when they get ready to like pounce out with these new laws, it’s like, “Well see, it’s already been published,” but nobody’s read it and nobody’s really challenged it.
So about six or seven years ago, they started pushing this thing towards mandatory flu shots for healthcare workers, I said, “We’re headed down a really, really slippery slope here.” If we are requiring people to be injected with a substance against their will that could really seriously harm them and in some cases, even kill them – they could get Guillain Barre Syndrome, they can get brachioplaxitis, they can get inflammation of the brain, they can have all kinds of problems and we’re mandatorily requiring that in exchange for a pay check for a W2 worker, we’re headed down a really slippery slope.
What’s next? You’re having a bad day, you have to take your mandatory Prozac? Are we wanting to make sure these other things are going to come into line. For example, now they’re talking about with nurses mandatory repeated MMR vaccines. They’re talking about all the healthcare workers getting pertussis vaccines. They’re giving pertussis vaccines to pregnant mothers or right after they deliver. They’re giving pertussis vaccines to the mother and the father. It’s just out of control. It’s like we just have to inoculate everybody with these substances just because we believe that this is the right thing and it really isn’t.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, and speaking about in utero, I always think back if perhaps my getting a vaccine when I was pregnant with my daughter could have contributed to her autism later. I was really against getting vaccines when I was pregnant, but my pediatrician was like there’s an H1N1 scare and is reading me all these statistics and “if you get the flu when you’re pregnant, it’s really dangerous.” So I actually got the flu vaccine and the H1N1 flu vaccine at the same time. Does that contribute to poor health in children and can that lead to autism and other diseases down the road?
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: Well, you know, it’s forever. We always talked about pregnant mothers shouldn’t take anything even an aspirin. And if you had a cold or a flu, take some Vitamin C because you can’t take Nyquil or you can’t take Benadryl or any of those things because it might affect the baby. But now, injecting mothers with all of these things is not a big deal? In fact, it’s probably good for the baby?
I was at a conference. This was in 2004. It was the first International Neonatal Vaccination Conference. I was there. I took time off from work. I paid my own money to go to this conference in Washington D.C. I was sitting in the room when they were talking about how they were going to convince mothers to take a flu shot and if they did that, were they somehow going to have to have the VAERS database and the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program protect not only the mother, but the fetus if there was an adverse outcome and how they could politically maneuver that and convince the OB’s that they should be giving these mothers these flu shots when OB’s forever, like I said, was like, “Don’t take anything. I’m sorry, you can’t.”
So this has been a methodical co-opting of the medical profession for commerce for a long time. That was in 2004. I saw this coming at that point in time, that this is what they’re going to be doing. And they were talking about developing an RSV vaccine for premature babies.
They’re saying, “Well, I don’t know how we’re ever going to get parents to give their children these RSV vaccine because it has very low mortality. Kids don’t die from it, but it has a high morbidity” meaning that when you have a little bitty baby that’s just a few weeks old and they have this cough and they have RSV, they’re hospitalized. So there’s a cost involved with that. It’s like, “How can we convince these parents to give their kids a $3000 shot to keep them from going in the hospital?”
It’s all about money. I remember I got up to the microphone during that conference when they got to the question and answer period and I said, “You talk about these are people’s children, their most precious thing in their world that they give birth to and you’re showing us all these graphs and talking about data points.” Well, every one of those data points is a baby and what you’re talking about in terms of risks and all these stratification of risks and all these stuff, it’s just despicable.
Wendy Myers: And it’s such a conflict of interest too because half of a pediatrician’s income is doing vaccinations.
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: But pediatricians make their money by well baby checks. And why do we have well baby checks at two, four and six months? It was set up for doctor convenience and that’s the way your insurance pays for it. It has nothing to do with the health of your child.
Parents know whether their kids are sick and that’s another thing that they have had their (parents) brains had been stolen by the industry, to think that they have got to take their kid in for the doctor to tell them that their kid is okay. I mean, really? Really? For 30,000 years, parents, mothers had been raising children. They kind of know when their kids are okay.
Wendy Myers: Yeah. I stopped going to the wellness check. It’s like, “What’s the point of this?” At the 18th month, I was like, “I’m done. This is ridiculous.”
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: All it is is an opportunity to vaccinate. It’s all what the well baby check is. For a period of time, they don’t talk to you about normal growth milestones look like, when you should introduce certain foods, what about water, what about different kinds of water, what can you tell me about these different formulas, is there something I should know as a parent. They don’t talk about anything in terms of health. It’s just like “weight your kid, measure them, head circumference, how long are they, are they growing weight? Great! The nurse comes in with five vaccines.”
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: So what do you think about preservative-free vaccines. My pediatrician, she’s a really nice pediatrician (upper-scale one, blah-blah-blah-blah-blah), she offers the preservative-free to obviously…
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: All it means is that it doesn’t have mercury in it. That’s all it means. There’s nothing magical about that. It’s a marketing ploy.
I always tell parents, “I don’t care if you think your pediatrician is second only to God and how nice and wonderful and charming they are and playful personality-wise. I don’t care. I don’t care if they’re somebody you invite over for Christmas, go to dinner with. They are still poisoning children and destroying the DNA of the human race for a living.”
Somebody died and suddenly made me health czar, I would round them all up, every single pediatrician and I would make them re-learn pediatric immunology and re-learn everything about normal growth and development and they would have to take a test on it and they would be forced to read the VAERS database.
Just sit and read those heartbreaking stories of these vaccine-injured kids so they could think. They might be mindful about what they do with their job and what they do with these children. They’re not just little playthings. They are developing human beings. When you really look at the developmental things of what it takes to develop a nerve cell or develop a muscle cell in the body and the complexities that have to happen with all these individual enzymes and these growth things that happen and in the middle of that, you toss in a whole bunch of kids and think that that’s supposed to be benign? They would have to pass a test or they couldn’t practice medicine. They never learned any of that.
Wendy Myers: I know. I feel like a lot of them are just parroting what they learned in medical school, but the medical schools are controlled by big pharma. So I feel like a lot of them are going to medical school wanting to help people, but they end up just parroting what they learn.
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: Exactly.
Wendy Myers: And many people in different practices don’t go beyond their education. They’re not curious. They don’t continue to learn outside. I think that’s probably one of the bigger problems. I know I asked my pediatrician actually to come on my podcast and talk about some of the danger of vaccines and she says, “I can’t. That’s a conflict of interest.” She couldn’t do it.
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: Conflict of interest?
Wendy Myers: Yeah.
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: That’s really sad. I mean, you could invite an orthopedic surgeon on and could talk about the potential complication of a knee replacement or a hip replacement. Even though they do them, they say, “Well, this could happen. This could happen. You don’t want to have a knee replacement before a certain age because they only last for so long.” There’s no conflict of interest there. The problem is she doesn’t know. She doesn’t know the answer. She’s probably well aware that you know more than she does.
Wendy Myers: Yeah. And also, that’s her income. So she can’t be disparaging the way that she makes money. I still have not found a new pediatrician. So I haven’t been taking my daughter to the doctor, but I do need to find a more holistic pediatrician. I just haven’t gotten around to it.
Wendy Myers: So I have a question I like to ask all of my guests. What do you think is the most pressing health issue in the world today?
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: Hmmm… the most pressing health issue. I think obesity because obesity is starting out with children at such a young age. I mean, we’re seeing some of these kids that are born that are 16 lbs., 17 lbs. at birth. It’s like giving birth to a toddler.
I think that obesity and childhood obesity and adult obesity is such a driver to all of these other conditions – heart disease, musculoskeletal diseases, diabetes. I think that, coupled with, of course, I would say that I think one of the biggest health issues is all of these vaccines that kids are getting nowadays because again, that’s an economic health driver.
I don’t believe that any emphasis in our medical system as it’s currently structured is looking at health. It’s all about disease. And so we’re never going to get ahead of the curve. When we’re talking about the year 2025, that 35% to 40% of our GDP is going to be spent on healthcare – which is in itself is an oxymoron because it’s not about health care. Symptom-free in the presence of medication is not health.
Giving people ObamaCare when they talk about getting people access, all they’re saying is, “Go to the doctor so you can get your drugs.” They’re not providing services for nutrition or giving a health credit for going to the gym or keeping your ideal body weight or not smoking. There’s none of that. It’s all about access to more drugs.
So the entire system is so broken. It’s so broken that I just don’t think there’s any hope for it.
Wendy Myers: That’s why I started Liveto110.com because I wanted to help educate people that there are alternatives. You can heal your body without medications and toss some in the garbage. There’s other ways to heal your body and address the actual underlying causes of the disease, which medications just cover up symptoms.
Wendy Myers: I had another question. Say, for instance, you travel to India where there’s a lot of disease going on or another country where polio is still rampant or other diseases are still rampant, would you ever recommend vaccination in an extreme case like that if you’re visiting a country where there’s a high risk of contracting these diseases that are in control in the U.S.
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: No, the health is an inside-out phenomenon, right? You need to keep yourself healthy in the presence of pathogens. Just because you’re exposed to a pathogen does not mean you’re going to contract the illness if you have an inside-healthy system.
Homeoprophylaxis really does work, using homeopathy to boost the cellular immunity side of your system, the TH1 side of the equation, which is what keeps you healthy in the presence of pathogens. So using homeopathy to boost your immune system when you travel – I mean, travel vaccines comes up a lot. I get that question a lot. With the sole exception of yellow fever vaccines in certain countries of the world (not in all of them, but in certain countries), all of the rest of the travel vaccines are recommended. They are not required.
And quite frankly, I know that a lot of people like to go on mission trips and they want to serve their church and serve God by going on mission trips, but by requiring them to be injected with things that could leave them with long-term disabilities in exchange for that, somehow there’s like an oxymoron in there that’s not right. And so I wouldn’t recommend any of those. I just wouldn’t.
Wendy Myers: So why don’t we talk about your books, Saying No to Vaccines. Can you talk a little bit about that and why you wrote it?
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: Well, the subtitle on the book is – the book’s title as you said is Saying No to Vaccines, but the subtitle on the book is Refuting the 25 Most Common Reasons to Vaccinate. And so you don’t have to read the book from page one to the end straight through, you can actually go to the table of contents and skim down the 25 reasons that you’re arguing with your mother-in-law or your husband about and you can go right to that argument and how I defended the side of that and it embedded right there the reference, the medical reference to the journal articles that show you from conventional medical literature why this argument is sustainable.
Interestingly enough, I’m right now in the process of having a new website built, a new drtenpenny.com website that will probably be in a beta release some time after the 4th of July. There’s going to be a membership area on the website. In the member’s area, I’m going to have – over time, we’re going to start probably ten videos. The videos are going to be anywhere from 15-30 minutes. They’re going to be a Powerpoint presentation with a voiceover and it’s going to be very targeted, specific information. So if you want to just go get a 15-minute video on what are the side effects of the hepatitis B vaccine, you can go and do that instead of listening to three hours and hope that you hear what you’re going to hear.
I was going to rewrite the book and just update it because it came out in 2008. I was going to update it, but I decided instead because of the way technology is that I’m going to go with a series of little ebooks so you can just get that specific information that you’re looking for. Everybody’s time is so packed now with information and have-to-do’s and these big lives that we have, so I want to break everything down to much more bite-size little pieces. A lot of that is going to be in the membership area of the website.
We’re going to have a really active blog and interacting and lots of videos and things like that. I’m really excited about this new website area because I think we can have a lot more interaction, a lot more interface and really specific information for people.
Wendy Myers: I think that’s great because when I first got pregnant and I started researching the vaccine issue, I just couldn’t find good information. When you search online for ‘risks of vaccines’, you come to all different kinds of websites that I think are run by big pharma saying they’re safe and et cetera, et cetera. I still felt like, “Well, maybe I should still vaccinate.” And then when my daughter got injured, then I started to address the issue again. It’s hard to find information. The books are this thick. They’re overwhelming.
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: Exactly.
Wendy Myers: You buy it and then it sits on the shelf. I think it’s an amazing idea. I think your website is the resource to go to to learn about the problems with the vaccines because there’s not enough good information out there. I think your website is a great resource. It’s very concise and you address all the different arguments, which I like because that’s the key. People need to have their specific argument addressed. I love that idea, that you’re giving little snippet videos.
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: Yeah, because people, they want specific information. They’re having a debate with somebody – their husband, their sister-in-law that’s an RN, whoever. They’re going to play dates. And like the question that you said, “How do I respond to the people who say, ‘I don’t want your unvaccinated kid playing in my playgroup’?”
And so they want that specific language and they want it – you know, we’re so used to YouTube these days and little sound bites of things. They want it in a15-minute or less little sound bites so they can get it and move on to the next thing. That’s just the way that we are.
And so I’m redesigning everything to go into that direction and give people really specific information with footnotes to references to medical literatures so they can say, “It’s not just Dr. Sherri’s opinion. My opinion came from reading this information.”
That’s the other thing that we have, the vaccine research library, which is for the people who are really into this that I’ve put together. It’s vaccineresearchlibrary.com and there’s more than 6000 articles in there from the medical literature showing the problems associated with vaccines. It’s all categorized by – you can just look up measles, rubella, pertussis. You can find all of these problems that have been documented. It’s out there if you just know to look for it.
Wendy Myers: Well, thank you so much, Sherri. Thank you for your contribution to help to educate. I know about the dangers of vaccines. I know it’s an uphill battle for so many people. I just implore the mothers out there who are considering getting pregnant or having children or are pregnant to really not do what I did and to just automatically think that you already know about the vaccine issue, to just think because there’s this collective unconscious that vaccines are healthy and they’re required for health, to look into the issue and research a little bit more because I think you’ll be unpleasantly surprised and have a lot of common misconceptions blown apart if you research it. Just dig a little deeper. And don’t listen to your doctor. Don’t ever blindly listen to your physicians. Today, in our society, we have to think for ourselves and take responsibility for our health.
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: Absolutely.
Wendy Myers: Thank you so much, Dr. Tenpenny. It was amazing having you on the show.
Dr. Sherry: Okay, great. Thank you so much for having me. It was fun.
Wendy Myers: And everyone, if you want to learn all about detoxification, the modern paleo diet and how to heal your health conditions naturally, go look at my site, Liveto110.com. It really recently got a facelift as well. Isn’t it fun, Dr. Tenpenny, to redo your whole website. It takes so long.
Dr. Sherry: Is it fun? Well, I don’t know. Begin with the end in mind and then maybe you’ll think it’s fun.
Wendy Myers: Yes, it took me five months to re-do the site.
Dr. Sherry: Oh, good for you.
Wendy Myers: But it’s nice and sparkly and pretty now. So you can go and look at that. You can take a look at my modern paleo cooking show on YouTube at WendyLiveto110. It’s also on the new site. Thank you so much for listening to the Live to 110 Podcast.