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  1. Find out what you’ll learn on this episode of The Myers Detox Podcast with David Router, who will be discussing energy vampires.
  2. Energy vampires can take form of a variety of different people in your life, but all can deplete you of you energy and consciousness.  Find out exactly what an energy vampire is.
  3. Sometimes we become so used to the energy vampire in our life that it is difficult to realize they are present. Learn about the signs that someone may be an energy vampire.
  4. One of the best things that happens when you discover the energy vampires in your life is that you can harness your energy and use it properly, which attracts the right people and the right energy to you. Find out the other positive things that can happen when you discover your energy vampires.
  5. There are several things that can make you more vulnerable to energy vampires, like being a very empathetic person, but there is one theme among all reasons. Find out what this is.
  6. There are many different types of vampires but there is one main thing you can do to prevent them from feeding on your energy. Learn the different types of energy vampires and what you can do to best protect yourself.
  7. Energy vampires can also take the form of people who dump their emotional baggage on you, and can even be people who are overly positive. Find out more about these types of energy vampires and how you can protect yourself form them.
  8. One of the first things you must do to release energy vampires is to work with your own personal consciousness. Learn how you can find and then use your consciousness to detox energy vampires.
  9. As we become more engaged with our soul and our consciousness we begin to associate with people of the same “genre”, which opens up our energy bandwidth. Find out more about what happens when you release energy vampires and start to interact with people that have similar energetic values.
  10. Learn more about David’s one-on-one and group energy work, and how the exercises performed in them can help release energy vampires.
  11. You can learn more about David, his exercises, and how you can work with him at


Wendy Myers: Hello, everyone. My name is Wendy Myers. Welcome to the Myers Detox Podcast. You can check out my site where we talk about everything related to heavy metal and chemical detoxification and topics surrounding that, which can support that process and alternative health as well, but today we are talking about something really, really interesting. I love this show. I love the guest, David Router. We’re talking about energy vampires and how to detox them from your life to feel better, happier, experience joy, feel more confident, feel more secure, less anxiety. A lot happens when we have a lot of people sucking on our energy, sucking our lifeblood out of us. And some people have done that in our lives. We’re energy vampires now, or we have energy vampires that we’re dealing with that are really preventing us from becoming our best selves or fulfilling our destiny and our purpose.

Wendy Myers: David explains exactly how to spot an energy vampire and the different types of energy vampires, which is really interesting, and how to release them from your life in how to work with energy properly because it really boils down to yourself to what you’re doing in your life. You’re allowing these people in and to a certain degree he talks about how to really get in touch with yourself and your intuition so that you can spot energy vampires and release them. And really the results can be really incredible once you do that. But so we’ll talk about that in depth. But I know a lot of you guys listening are concerned about heavy metal toxicity and your chemical load. What’s my body burden of toxins? Do I need to be concerned? What should I do? What kind of testing should I do?

Wendy Myers: I created a quiz at You can go there and take it. It takes two minutes. And after that, you’ll get all these answers to your frequently asked questions about detox and heavy metal detox. We talk about it in this free video series. After you get your results, all different types of topics, like where do you start? How do you begin a detox? What’s the best type of testing? What kind of supplements do you need to detox? And just all these different questions are answered so that you can begin your detox journey and know that you’re doing it right? So, go check it out at Our guest today, David Router. He’s a functional consciousness, energy instructor and visionary author for more than 30 years internationally recognized Australian native David Router has shared his exceptional gifts and insights in the world of subtle energy and functional consciousness considered a master of conscious energy coach and healers by those who’ve experienced his work.

Wendy Myers: David has created a series of functional conscious exercises called reflective body mechanics and David is able to see energy, which enables him to guide participants to connect and activate their subconscious to release embedded patterns of behavior, which have restricted their ability to change life patterns. Once released, they’re able to reconnect and open functional consciousness into their everyday life, which enables them to experience a stronger intuition and more productive, calm life. This also results in their ability to protect themselves from unhealthy relationships and attract healthy, supportive relationships. David is dedicated to helping others lead more self fulfilled lives and reconnect with the deepest core of their being through the systems and exercises that he has developed.

Wendy Myers: And through workshops and individual or group sessions, he has helped countless individuals heal from the effects of psycho, emotional, spiritual and physical trauma and to regain the ability to lead their lives with inner peace and clarity. You can learn more about David Router and his work at David, thank you so much for coming on the show.

David Router: Thanks for inviting me. I’m really glad to be here. We always have a good time.

Wendy Myers: Yes. Yeah. We’re going to talk about energy vampires today, which I thought it’s an interesting subject and something that’s very, very draining to people and they need to bring this awareness into their thoughts and how they engage with people in the world. Tell us what is an energy vampire?

David Router: First of all, as we start to think about energy vampires, people are probably a little bit attuned to it, but probably they just don’t think about it because everybody’s fairly highly sensitive. But what we need to do is actually be aware that there’s a lot of situations where people are coming up to us and in a way they’re asking us to be responsible for them. Or a lot of vampires like to dump as well while they suck information from us. You’ve also got to go into all your feelings and emotions because they’re the ones that can really dictate how somebody is really sucking on your energy. Also, sucking on your consciousness, okay? It’s not just your energy. They also suck on your well-being and they suck on your life or how you do things. Or actually they can even suck on the wealth of you if you like.

David Router: I’ve had a lot of clients who they just suck all the financial responsibility for themselves, basically for you. They want you to be responsible for their finances. There’s so many different ways and once you start to clear it up everyone’s really surprised and everyone thinks, “Wow, I didn’t even really notice that I was doing that.” It’s really where you’re allowing people to do it because as our energy moves, we stop people being able to suck on us really. And this is something you’ve actually experienced yourself in a couple of little areas that I worked with you, Wendy because you had a couple of little energy vampires on here, there, and everywhere when I met you.

David Router: And once we cleared them up, well, a lot of things just really changed. For me, it’s actually good fun to be able to help somebody and then see those changes in somebody’s life because it’s just really good to say all I want is to be able to get the most out of their life. That’s all I’m about.

Wendy Myers: Yeah. I’ve worked with you for a couple of years. That’s really a little more than a couple of years now. And you’ve helped me tremendously in many different areas personally, with my business and whatnot. And part of that is recognizing where people are sucking you or sucking your energy or are energy vampires in your life and where you’re allowing them to do that. But also working with energy working in that energetic sphere and kind of taking responsibility for your energy and seeing where you can optimize your energy, so to speak. But let’s talk about what are some of the signs of energy vampires? I think some people know they have one maybe in a relationship where they just feel drained all the time.

Wendy Myers: I certainly had a business partnership where I just felt constantly drained by that and I had to let it go and it was very difficult or we have a significant partner or a friend, and maybe don’t feel very good after being in their presence. Can you talk about that? And some of the signs of energy vampires?

David Router: Sure. I think one of the biggest things we focused on everybody else and we focus on everybody’s emotions and feelings and in a way we scan everybody else because that’s how, when we meet someone for the very first time, we’re aware of what they’re like, how they do it. But after we become accustomed to somebody, we totally detune that. And it’s like, “Well, we know you now, we know all the different little intricacies that you have, and we know all the crap that you come up with and whatever.” So we don’t in a way, I guess we get lazy sometimes.

Wendy Myers: Habituate. You habituate to being drained.

David Router: We do. And we intrinsically know what that person’s like. We just think, “Oh yeah, well let’s just them whatever.” But the thing is we try to be responsible for our own life and our own actions. But the thing is when your emotions, sometimes after the fact, when you’re really going to pick up that someone is sucking off you because you’ll feel a little bit annoyed and it may not even be annoyed with somebody else. It could be where you’re annoyed with yourself and you get a little bit paid off with exactly what’s going on in your life and they should be all signs exactly that you’re possibly losing the greater part of your life in some little specific area.

David Router: It’s basically where people are being lazy and they’re saying, I can’t be bothered to do this I want you to do it for me. I think it’s really, really important sometimes that we should actually consider how it’s almost go back into retrospect and do a little bit of a stock check on how or a reconciliation of how we’ve done in our day sometimes, or what’s actually going on in our life because sometimes we really are more concerned with what’s going on and let’s face it we’re all pretty damn busy these days. We’re so busy just trying to do something. And then we’re also busy sometimes trying to relax. But when we try to relax, sometimes we just sit in front of the TV to try and just get a little bit of quiet time if you’d like or just distress. “I just want a little bit of fun time or something.” But sometimes if you can just be quiet, even when you go to bed is probably the best time.

David Router: To get a little bit more perspective of what actually is going on. The best thing you can do is actually just clasp your hands like this, just put them on your chest. And what happens is, as you close your eyes, you’re going to get more of a perspective of you. If you just lie there and if you’re used to meditating automatically your energy will go straight back into yourself. And as you’re just lying there and you just do a little bit of basically go back what you’ve done during the day, or find, just think about where things have been going in your day, what’s worked well or what hasn’t worked well. Automatically you’re going to get a little bit of a summary because what you’re doing is as you scan yourself, your body holds a lot of the imprints of what actually is going on in the day.

David Router: So, you can actually get a little bit of a backlash sometimes. If all of a sudden you were getting a little bit angry, it’s like, “Hmm, where did that come from? Why am I angry? Who’s been sucking on me.” A lot of people are very aware that that’s going on because we’re all a lot more highly sensitive than everybody probably thinks, but you’ve got to give yourself some credit for being highly sensitive. And because we are highly sensitive, we don’t want to turn it off because we might think that we’re vulnerable because we’re highly sensitive. That’s giving us vital information and we should be able to use it, don’t think, I’m being over sensitive to certain things. Or we think that it’s like we’re being over-reactive, but sometimes because that’s what we do become over-reactive because we aren’t listening enough to a higher census of we’re becoming somebody just sucking on us and we can’t fulfill certain areas of our life.

Wendy Myers: Yeah. And I certainly felt that way. I had a business partner that I felt was really holding me back a lot. And also I just was having to work. I was working seven days a week. I felt drained all the time. I felt unhappy. I knew, and I was allowing it to happen. I knew it was happening, but I just had to reach a point where I took responsibility and made changes. Because there’s some people that are kind of energy vampires, but you keep them around for various reasons. And other people, you have to let them go and you have to sit still and listen to yourself as to what’s the right decision for you.

David Router: Yeah. But that changed a lot as soon as you found out how to use your energy, Wendy, didn’t it?

Wendy Myers: Yes. Mm-hmm (affirmative).

David Router: So, as soon as you found out how to use your energy for you, it takes on a lot of different perspectives and then you see a lot of different things that are going on before. Sometimes you don’t even recognize or you think that that’s a problem, but actually, hey, the problem is over here. And we didn’t realize it. And then as soon as we change it, things move very quickly. I’m really surprised at how quickly it changes for some people. I just helped a friend a while ago and she rang up the other day. She couldn’t believe how quickly her business is taken off. I won’t say what business she is, but her sales have basically quadrupled.

Wendy Myers: Yeah. When you also harness your energy and you’re more aware of it and you’re using it properly, you just attract the right people or the right energy or aura to you as well. And for me, since I’ve been working for you or working with you, a lot of changes have happened in my life. Very, very positive. I’m happier than I’ve ever been in my life. I attribute that in part to working with you and helping to just take control and harness my energy, if you will, and get rid of people in my life that I just can’t handle. It wasn’t working, we just weren’t on the same wavelength or vibration or frequency or whatever some people, you just have to let them go as painful as it may be.

David Router: That’s true and one of the biggest things with energy vampires is they cut your energy in lots of places sometimes. It’s like, they’re the only vital ones who need to be in your life. But the thing is, once we find and we use our own energy. One, you do become a heck of a lot happier. It’s just because you’re so quiet and you can listen to yourself and you don’t have all this clutter going on in your head, so you can listen and you can feel what’s actually going on. Everyone’s plagued with loneliness these days. Yeah. Often we’re going to feel very, very lonely when we’ve got a lot of these energy vampires on us because they’re just sucking the guts out of us, so to speak.

David Router: But they’re splitting all our personal messages, which sometimes will feel very, very lonely and unhappy because we can’t get our own personal messages then because they’re sucking the guts out of us, so to speak. We don’t focus on ourselves and we have to be able to focus on ourself. We’ll get our own messages. Then we can actually also do something that a lot of us don’t consider also for our wellness and our mindfulness, and actually how our life works and that’s actually how our consciousness works, because our consciousness is one of the largest things that allows us to just be in the place at the right time.

David Router: So, our energy and our consciousness basically work at the same time. Okay. But when you have somebody sucking the guts out of you, everything ends up all fragmented all over the place so things don’t work simultaneously, which means that we don’t have synchronicity in our life. As you experienced, a lot of synchronicity comes back into your life and all of a sudden there’s a lot of things and there’s a lot of opportunities and this is happening and that’s happening. I get a lot of joy out of seeing people’s lives, come back together. And then this is happening and that’s happening. Especially for mothers of the home, it adds a lot of extra dimensions because the best thing that happens when you don’t have the energy vampires is that communication happens.

David Router: That all of a sudden, a lot of mothers find that the communication in their homes becomes a heck of a lot more important and everybody wants to talk. And it’s often funny when I’ve noticed this, basically in my own home, it’s where kids will come over and they would have been talking to my stepson, but then they’ll end up talking to Lilla for ages, because basically her energy says, “I want to have a conversation.” Then sometimes they’re ages before they’ve been going up and talking to all their mates. Because all of a sudden, once you start to use it, it helps other people also get their personal self-messages. Then all of a sudden it’s like, they’re becoming a little bit happier even while they’re talking to0.

David Router: So, what you’re doing is you’re not actually allowing them to suck. You’re telling them, “Hey, you’ve got to use your own energy, you’ve got to use your own consciousness.” So you actually change. Sometimes the vampires actually rehabilitate.

Wendy Myers: Interesting. Yeah.

David Router: So anytime they try to  rehabilitate, they find they can’t because the thing is, you’re not allowing them to suck on you now. Then sometimes it’s quite funny because they’ll get very confused. Its like, “Hang on. You’re not giving me what I want.” Some of them are going to get a little bit angry because you’re not taking, you’re actually making them be responsible now.

Wendy Myers: A lot angry.

David Router: Yeah, a lot of angry in some case especially financially. Because we’re not enabling as well. The biggest thing is we’ve got to make sure that we aren’t an enabler. Instead of give and take as soon as you start to use your energy properly, we basically share. You share componentry, but you’re not giving. You’ll show somebody, doesn’t mean you don’t still help people. You can still help people but in a way, what you’re doing is you’re showing them how to do this or you’re showing them how to do that. Then they’re not really sucking on you, you’re showing them how to do things. But you aren’t an enabler where you just constantly give, give you become someone who empowers somebody, but you’re not an enabler.

David Router: That’s a lot different, isn’t it? You’ve noticed the way you help your people there, they all have a lot of different dispositions about themselves now they’ve become stronger.

Wendy Myers: I love that concept of when you’re kind of rise, raising your frequency or your vibration or your positivity, you can share that and affect other people in a positive way. But also these energy vampires also kind of get that message, whether they’re aware of it or not, and will, can fall away where they’re just kind of not going to get what they want any more so they go away naturally. You don’t have to just end it with people, but some people you do have to put your foot down, have a very clear boundary and they get really pissed off. They’re like, “Wait a second. I can’t take advantage of you. How dare you?” I’ve had one person. I was like, “Wow.” It was just really surprising.

David Router: Those people either move away or the people who are around you or find you become a lot closer. The friends that I have, we can talk about anything, but if someone was doing something, I thought wasn’t ethical or wasn’t right. And I’ve said that to a few friends, the thing is the ones that I’ve been very blunt with. They’re the friends who I’ve held on to for life, because they’ve been equally blunt with myself because it’s like, if you can’t say to somebody that I think you’re hurting somebody or you’re not acting responsibly. And if they can’t take that on board as not a criticism, but as helpful information, then they aren’t a true friend because you can talk about anything. I find that you can have a more real conversation and you can talk about anything.

David Router: It’s not like your heart is on your sleeve. It means that you have such wide variance and values. And what actually happens in the world that you can talk about anything and the maiden. And it shouldn’t really upset anybody because you’re just talking about it because you don’t want to talk about that or this, or you might upset them. But once you find how to use that, your dialogue becomes wider because what happens is, as you said, we raise their frequency. But what we actually do is as we learn to use our energy and our conscious together, we use a greater variance. The bandwidth becomes incredibly, incredibly wide, which enables us to actually articulate very vast sequences of what is actually going on. That’s what becomes very exciting because as we can find what is really going on instead, because if we go higher in often, you may have heard, “Oh, you’ve got to raise your frequencies.”

David Router: But if you raise your frequencies, you’ve also got to go deeper. But there’s also a lot of other things that we have to do simultaneously so that we find energetically and through our consciousness, what we’re capable of, because that’s the thing. A lot of people, we all realize that. It took me a long time to realize this because I was helping so many people donkey’s years ago when I first started this that I didn’t realize how much I’d changed. There was a lot of things that I thought, boy, I wouldn’t have been game to do that years ago. I wouldn’t have been able to speak in front of a thousand people and just get up there and talk as if I’m talking to one person, it would have drove me nuts. Now after a while you find all these different parts and that’s another part of it.

David Router: As you get rid of the energy confrontation that comes at you, you’re bringing that energy back to yourself. It means that you turn on a lot of different aspects of yourself that you are afraid to go into and all of a sudden you wake up so many different parts of you. And it’s quite exciting to see people changing because you do remember if you’ve had people sucking on your energy that means that you have less confidence in a lot of different areas.

Wendy Myers: And you’re limited.

David Router: You don’t notice a lot of things. Then as you don’t have that people sucking on your confidence on certain areas. It’s like, “Oh wow. I didn’t notice that.” And sometimes it’s only in retrospect that we find we have a lot more abilities and sometimes what we thought and that we can actually bring a lot of different aspects into our life because the wider the bandwidth and the more things that we access, it means that we see a lot of different actions and we notice a lot of the simplest things that actually bring joy to our lives because there’s a lot of things that just bring us joy because otherwise we become, it’s like we’ve got blinkers on and we only see what a few things in life.

David Router: And then we can become a little bit consumed with some things in life to say, “Oh, that’s just bringing me joy.” Yeah. As we get rid of the vampires, all of a sudden we start to see, it’s not just this in our life that brings us joy. There’s a lot of different things and it’s great to be able to get out and enjoy some of the most simplest things in life because sometimes we can become too consumed in certain things. And then basically we go within, we become a little bit stuck and cut off from a lot of things. As we get out and we see a lot of things that, and you wonder then actually engage in new conversations, engage with new people and engage in new opportunities and have fun because we’re not here very long. We shouldn’t be locked away. We should be able to communicate and have a good time.

Wendy Myers: Yeah, exactly.

David Router: We shouldn’t be lonely. We shouldn’t be locked away.

Wendy Myers: So, what are some of the things in life that can make us more vulnerable to energy vampires? Because I know people that are kind of sensitive or empathic or want to help other people can very much be prone to attracting energy vampires because they’re kind of like the perfect match almost.

David Router: On my website I have a way of teaching people how to ground, If you’d like to go on there, there’s actually a way to ground. I teach people how to ground, but it’s not just like walking out and just walking around the yard and with your bare feet and thinking, “Oh yeah, this is good.” Because we all sometimes feel a little bit lightheaded and that’s a really good version that you’re not grounded, but what I teach people is active grounding and it’s how you actually move the energy around your body. As your energy moves, you get messages it’s free you can just go on there, you’ll find it. It shows you how to actually move the energy in your body, just by granting, as you go deep into the ground, because this underneath our feet, there’s an energy if you like it’s more like an energy made up from all different types of lives that have gone on it.

David Router: And it can just sort of stop us from reality getting into what we really need to. Yeah. What I’ve found is that it’s basically the energy that everyone has fear like coronavirus for the moment, everyone gets a little bit fearful, but it comes through that energy layer. What happens is it’s the energy layer that holds the fears and it’s always the one that has manipulation. And it’s where we also react or respond to over negative energy or over positive energy. Over negative energy is where we have a lot of our fears, but over positive energy is where we have all our manipulation and controls and we don’t actually realize it.

David Router: So, as soon as we have over positive energy, we tend to often go with it really quickly. We want to play with it, but it’s the one that can actually.. it’s why did I fall for doing that again? Why am I doing this again? And then where they are now, I’ve done it again. I’ve done it again. We aren’t aware of it. What I found is as our energy moves, we are aware of when we’re falling into that trap. A lot of energy vampires use a lot of over positive energy it’s sort of like a big trick. What happens is as we ground, our energy goes deep into what is basically the neutral energy of the world and it just allows our energy to move and as our energy moves, we start to get the vital messages that basically tell us what’s going on.

Wendy Myers: And guide you and guide you also. You can tap into your intuition, tap into your intuition and kind of lead you with the right decision to make what you need to do, who you need to be around the business decisions, personal decisions.

David Router: Yeah. And I was just about to say, it was going to … I must’ve worked with you long enough now you’re finishing my sentence.

Wendy Myers: Yes.

David Router: Because you’re exactly right. Because I was about to say, if your energy doesn’t move, your intuition turns off. If your energy doesn’t move, your instinct turns off. And that’s when we become over-sensitive not highly sensitive. When we’re highly sensitive, we’re aware when we’re over sensitive is when we aren’t aware and able to change things. As we move our energy and we get it moving, we get the messages our intuition tells us what’s happening.

David Router: Our instincts tell us what we do and don’t need, because it’s just as important not to do a lot of things. Like don’t allow the energy vampire to come and suck your office. Et cetera, et cetera and all those different ways of life. And also we have a lot of bosses who try to almost force you sometimes. As we learn how to use our energy more easily, you sort of break down that barrier or you find a better job.

Wendy Myers: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

David Router: It’s a bit of both. Yeah?

Wendy Myers: Yeah.

David Router: And if you’re a boss, it sort of allows you not to be manipulated by that person because some people just really go on your empathy and your sympathy. Or your nurturing points. But often they really, all they’re doing is just, they want their way.

Wendy Myers: And I like these exercises that you have. These grounding exercises. Because I do them in the morning and just a few minutes in the morning, a few minutes in the evening, ground yourself. For me, it just really helped me really tap into my intuition, trust my intuition, feel less stressed, more confident in my decisions and very excited about where I’m going in my life personally and professionally, because I can trust myself now and I know where the answers lie within me. I don’t have to stress about making decisions.

David Router: That’s right. And the biggest thing is our stability. Like when we’re stable, we know our emotions aren’t going up and down, it also means that the cultures that are around us and I don’t mean where you come from or whatever, or what your ethnic background. By cultures, we have loads of different cultures in all the different manufacturing plants. We have cultures in every type of business or how you do this or how you do that. Everything on the net has a certain culture. Sometimes we can get sucked into those. And then what they do is they cut us off from a certain perspective.

David Router: Or it’s like your workmate becomes more important than your family sort of. What we need is holes as we ground and we use our exercises to basically be neutral. We become not only, just more stable, we become more confident in being stable and we notice that we don’t allow people just to push us around or we don’t go into things that really aren’t going to highlight our life in the end. It might be good for a little while, but then we’ll think, “Oh man, I stuffed up.” It means that we don’t make so many dopey decisions.

David Router: Let’s face it, who hasn’t made dopey decisions, if you haven’t made a dopey decision, you haven’t lived or you’re not being honest. We’ve all done them and we all continue, but it does help you not make those decisions that impact us quite so much or we seem to see it quicker before we go down the road. We allow people to manipulate us or we allow them to just say, “If you do this for me,” because let’s face it, all vampires want you to do something for them.

Wendy Myers: Yeah. Well, can you describe some of the different types of energy vampires?

David Router: As I said, the responsibility one, is a big one. The empathic vampire, they want you to have more empathy for you. Basically in a way, if you think of every single emotion that you could recognize because I think I’vel listed what, 20 or 30 ones for you, but I could go into hundreds really. If you thought of every single emotion that exists, there’s basically an energy vampire that comes in for that thing, but in a way they’re either wanting you to take from you, like someone wants you to be responsible for their finance. Someone wants you to be responsible for their emotions. Somebody wants you to be feelings. Just it’s so draining because they want you to figure everything out for them. But really in the end, they want you to be responsible for them.

Wendy Myers: Yeah. There’s another interesting thought I just had, was that I find that I’ve had people latch onto me that maybe there’s something that they didn’t have in their life or have never experienced in their life and they’ll latch onto you to try to live vicariously through you, your light or your energy or your talents and maybe they can have just a piece of that if they latch onto you in some way.

David Router: That’s also true because if people aren’t getting their messages, if their energy isn’t moving, they don’t get the messages. You’re going to be like a guiding light. It’s like you’re the light that draws all the moths. Everybody thinks, “Oh wow, your life must be so good.” They see some part of your life and they think, “Well, if I had that, my life would be happy.” Basically, they want to suck up what you’ve got. Show me how or why you’re so happy. Really in the end, everybody thinks that you are happy or that you’ve got a whole load of wealth, so you must be happier. But that doesn’t always..

Wendy Myers: Translate.

David Router: Don’t always translate because I’ve helped everybody from billionaires down to people who’ve got nothing. It’s more of being able to use what you have. I think the empathy and the sympathy vampires are the ones that we don’t realize because often they’re very mellow, and the more mellow the make of the vampire, the more easily we give in. But then there’s like the gregarious vampire who always pretends they’re happy and has everything, “Oh, everything’s working out for me, life’s great,” blah, blah, blah. And as soon as they get home it’s like, “Hmm, why she got this, why she got that? And they’ll ring you up and say, “Oh, can you help me with this? Can you help me with that?” You seem to be really confident in this area. You really seem to know what you’re doing there.”

David Router: It’s one thing to help or show people, but you just got to make sure that they’re not just sucking the life out of you as well. Because example, a friend of mine who’s a stockbroker. He had these other friends who all were the same, they all want, “Well, can you help me show?” And so he helped a few just because he felt sorry for a couple of people and he wanted to give them a bit more financial stability. But in the end they didn’t even listen to what he was trying to help them with because they wanted him to do everything for them, but you can’t be totally responsible for somebody. Everyone has to be responsible for that area. I think that’s a big thing.

David Router: Just look at where someone’s sucking you. Even relationships, relationships are a hard part in sometimes relate in realizing that some people are only there for the good times. Yeah. It’s never, “Oh, you had a hard time doing something.” And then it’s really interesting who steps up when something bad really happens. Yeah. They’re the people who you can really rely on, or people who, they’re not there just to suck the guts out of you. I think that’s a really good lesson. And I always look at who helped you when the times were hard because we’ve all had hard times and a lot of crap happens.

Wendy Myers: Yeah. And I think it’s also interesting how when you’re around an energy vampire, you can feel anxious all the time, like you constantly have this underlying sense of anxiety, even if you’re not aware of it 100% because this is the result of you taking on these people’s feelings and emotions and then thinking that they’re your thoughts and emotions which I think, I always was a really good … Now it’s just a really interesting concept because you always think that everything you’re thinking and your emotions are yours, and then when you realize other people are sending you all these messages and you have the ability to block these out, that it’s really consoling in a certain way and stress relieving that you can block these out. You realize that your thoughts and everything are really your intuition. And that’s one thing that you help people do. You help people block out everyone else’s messages or the negative or they’re trying to manipulate you, block that out so that you’re just able to own you and be intuitive for yourself to help yourself.

David Router: Going back to that, I wasn’t going to get too technical today, but you’ve sort of opened a can of worms there. It does really happen because our energy system is a lot more larger than what people think. It’s also one of the biggest factors that I found is, and it’s a strange one, is that when we have a lot of trauma, our energy actually goes deep within. We sort of suck it all in, but it can also split so that we actually have energy of ourselves sitting outside us. And it’s pretty strange for people when you just show them how much energy of themselves is actually sitting outside due to trauma and it doesn’t take a lot. Just a little bit of stress sometimes and certain things fall away.

David Router: When I show people how much of their energy is actually sitting outside, it also means that it’s very easy for you to suck up the messages, the feelings, the emotions and everything that’s going on in other people’s lives. As you said, you can feel like that’s actually going on in your life and then you have anxiety even when you’re around that person. But if you know how to bring all this energy back into yourself, it doesn’t become a problem. It was very weird for me when I found it and I looked at some friends and that came to the front door, and I was like, “Wow.” All I could see was all this energy of themselves sitting outside of themselves and I knew when I could see the energy of people just sitting outside them, I thought, “Well, that shouldn’t be there.” This is going back a long, long time. And then I found out because I brought mine in, I thought all of a sudden I could see this.

David Router: As your energy works a lot more efficiently, all of a sudden, wow, I could see all these people’s energy. And I thought, “Wow, I better bring that in for them.” But as soon as I did, that’s how I ended up on this train of helping people. I never set out to do it.

Wendy Myers: Yeah, it just kind of-

David Router: All of a sudden I started helping people do that and it’s like, “Oh wow, you’re changing your lives.” That’s a very simplistic view of it because there’s a lot more to it. Yeah, as you bring your energy back in, you’re not walking around allowing people to suck off you or basically you take on all their emotions and all their feelings and then you come home and you’re just drained and it’s just like, “Oh, that was such a bad day.”

Wendy Myers: Yeah. My barometer is how do I feel after I’m with this person or talk to them on the phone? Do I feel uplifted or do I just feel drained? And sometimes people have problems and you have to support them and whatnot. But if it’s like over years and just every time you talk to a person on the phone, they’re throwing up on you, all of their problems or always asking, have their handout and nothing offered to you or what have you. Just feel drained after being with this person. That’s a sign that maybe that’s your energy vampire. What are some other types of energy vampires? So, this is a fascinating concept to me. What are some like more common ones?

David Router: The biggest thing is that as we start to use our energy, everyone likes to dump energy on you sometimes. Although we have energy vampires, vampires can actually work in the opposite way and it sounds strange, they can dump on you. What happens is that if you’re working quite happily and in a certain area and you’re fairly highly empathic or highly sensitive, a lot of people come to you to actually dump. It’s like they come up to you and say, “Hi, Wendy. How are you doing?” Give you a big hug. “It’s really great to see,” and blah, blah, blah. They’ll talk to you for a little while. “Okay, I’ve got rid of all my crap. I can go now.” And off they go. It’s one of those things that we aren’t fully aware of and sometimes then you think, “Oh my God, thank God they’re gone.”

David Router: But it’s like, then you have this residual of like, “Oh, I feel so tired.” It’s almost like you’re sitting around, going to have a coffee or whatever because that person, when they dump all that crap on you, it also has the same effect as an energy vampire because that energy, you’re getting rid of it. You’re just basically making sure that you get rid of it so that it ceases to exist. But only trouble is sometimes we can end up dragging it around, all this crap from everybody else. Everyone’s had a hard day. Oh. And some people are really good at it. They want to come and see you all the time just to drop their crap.

Wendy Myers: That used to be me, I’m a professed crap dropper.

David Router: Yeah. All right, you were.

Wendy Myers: Call people up and my problem with this and my problem with that and yeah, blah, blah, blah. I knew, I was aware of it, but I didn’t really know. I thought I was sharing. I was having an exchange or that’s what friends do, but then I realized I have to take responsibility for my own crap.

David Router: It’s really surprising when I show people and say, “Look, we’re going to do an exercise now.” And it’s basically where everybody, it’s like someone has come up with a big wet sponge and just gone whack. And after a few years, that component becomes absolutely huge. Sometimes it can sit 20 to 30 feet around you, so that every time, sometimes we don’t feel like doing this, just got no enthusiasm to do that. It’s because these little energy vampires have just dumped on you. Then you don’t have the energy to get up and do anything yourself. Just makes you really lethargic because one, they could have sucked all the energy out of you because vampires don’t just suck the good, they actually suck energy out of you. Yeah.

David Router: You go away and they go away and you feel pretty deployed and it’s like, “Oh God, I’m just going to lie down.” And that’s why, because they know how to suck some parts out of you. And it’s not just emotions feeling, sometimes it’s just actual energy that they suck out of you. Now, they know how to get it and believe it or not, they do it by using over-positive energy. Everybody thinks you become an energy vampire by being over-negative. No, they do it because they’re stealthy, they’re sneaky and they use over-positive energy. And because of that positive connotation, they just come in and suck the guts out.

Wendy Myers: It’s more stealth. I’ve done that where I’ve been around super, super positive people and then I feel drained afterwards because I thought maybe I had to try to keep up with them or maybe I just wasn’t at their level, but in some way I just felt like-

David Router: Because in energy terms what happens, the left hand side of their body is whatever is, their sex. Their right side is obviously, opposite sex, but both sexes about body have to sort of work equally. When I find somebody who’s quite debilitated in any way, be it physically, emotionally, whatever, the right side of their body is invariably not working really well because when we are in a situation with say an energy vampire who we actually know is an energy vampire subconsciously somewhere we know it, will bring a lot of energy from the right side to our left side. It’s just like, “Back off. I’ve had enough of your sucking, just go back.” But when they use over-positive energy, they actually know how to suck. They actually, in a way they know how to do the reverse. They can bring the energy from my left to our right and just suck it out.

David Router: So, they know how to or they know how to build you up, so you’ll bring all the energy from your right to your left and you build it up. You’re very amped up and you’re quite excited. And then they’ll do like a reverse flush and then go back and drain it, take it all. There is another version of where you bring all the energy. They know how to bring the energy from here to here and they know how to drain it out of you over-positively. And then you feel like you need that person all the time and you aren’t aware of it. And every time you go back to it, in some way you’re giving to that person. Now, there’s a lot of vampires who are really good at influencing you to cough up loads and loads of money by doing the same thing.

David Router: That’s something that you and I have worked on a lot. We don’t allow ourselves to be influenced by people who over motivate us, but really they don’t give us anything. And there’s lot of over-motivators, but really they just take us. They don’t do anything at all. Yeah.

Wendy Myers: Yeah. What are some of the steps to releasing these energy vampires from our lives? We are usually aware when we have them. If not, maybe you have more awareness now of who might be draining you. What are the next steps to release them?

David Router: Well, we have a lot of steps in our program. And the first steps are that we need to find how to work with our own personal consciousness because a consciousness automatically tells us what is going on in our life. And to do that, one of the first steps that I actually do and when I work with people is, when I look at somebody, they’re very fragmented, and this is almost seen in yourself. What we do is we bring all different types of consciousness down through your body. And that means that you start to find all the different messages that you’re sending out, but we also have a feedback system. And in this feedback system, it’s like the missing messages.

David Router: Now, it’s like just as energy can get pushed out, there’s a lot of energy that actually tells us what is going on in our lives that gets pushed out because it’s like we didn’t want to know about it before or it’s like energy vampires have told us they’re more important than us, so we don’t worry about it. Okay? Imagine all the feedback systems that tell us what going on are missing. And they just sit actually outside your body. As soon as you bring them back in and it’s amazing to see, all of a sudden people start to get very quiet, which means that you’re not listening to all this crap on the outside. You’re just listening to what’s going on in your own personal conscious. Now, your conscious is throughout your whole entire body.

David Router: As you listen to that, we have one conscious system that basically is like the base of absolutely everything and that’s our spirit conscious. The spirit conscious is the one that tells us what is actually going on in our body because it goes through all the multiple different types of levels because you can start off on your everyday conscious, your subconscious and your subliminal conscious, but your spirit conscious tells what’s going, not working. It’ll tell you that you’re not getting those messages. You might get a little bit angry for two minutes, but it tells you what is not going on because it’s just as important to know what isn’t working, that is working. When you find your energy systems working, it’s not that we focus on what isn’t working, we focus what is working and then we make sure that we get it working again.

David Router: As we open up the spirit body, it basically allows you to open up your soul and send the message from your soul to your heart because usually when a big problem happens or we have something really largely debilitating in life. In a way, we go back to our heart, whether we notice it. We can actually do it very unconsciously. Yeah. But when we’re basically soul diving if you like, is we’ll go into our heart, try to figure out, “Why is this going on. It can’t be happening to me.” But is it. Why? And we try and find those personal messages. Yeah. But we can’t get them all because we’re not getting all the messages. What we do is we go back to the soul because the soul is the one that sends the messages through to the heart.

David Router: It’s got nothing to do with any type of religion. It’s just the way energy works. We have our own personal soul, but it sort of sits there and we don’t usually engage it enough. As we engage the soul, we send all these messages from your soul to your heart and your heart and soul just lock in, so that they aren’t actually working separately. Often your heart and soul are actually working like adversaries because we’re sending lots of messages to the heart, lots of energy to the soul. And then they split, which means that we often don’t get the messages until we go to sleep. In the early hours of the morning when we aren’t using a lot of over physical messages, all of a sudden we get all this, “Oh yeah, yeah, I know how to fix that now.”

David Router: That’s when our intuitional messages come in because the soul and the heart can actually talk, and your intuition gets those messages through. That’s your instinct. When we use functional consciousness, we bring those two messages together, then all of a sudden you can get those messages any time of the day. And it means that you can react and respond because not to react is a response. You can’t take responsibility for yourself. Now, all of a sudden, instead of making a decision way after the fact, because often we figure out after the whole problem is manifested, “No. It’s too late. I’ve already given away half a million dollars to that person I shouldn’t have.” Or, “I’ve invested a whole lot of time in that person. They’re sneaky and slimy, I shouldn’t have never invested.” It’s not just money, it’s time, it’s emotions, it’s feelings.

David Router: Or, “Oh no, I’ve invested all my love in that person and that person wasn’t really good to start with.” It’s why we manifest a lot of different types of relationships over and over again. Or, “Oh no, another needy person. That’s just what I need, another needy person. Someone who I’ve got to look after them all the time and this and that and that.” Because needy people are vampires. What we want is, and what we need is we need people who are going to be responsible. As we find how to use all these parts of ourselves, we find that we only engage with people who are of the same genre, so to speak. We find people who are responsible, people who have good ethics, people who want to help you because you’re a good person.

David Router: It’s more or less a mutual club of people who have ethics and have responsibility and they want the world to be a better place. It’s like, we don’t care about this and we don’t care about that about blah, blah, blah. It’s like you’re engaging with people who have vast responsibilities. And it’s really interesting because sometimes we’ve had … I remember when we used to have a boys’ day. All you girls had girls’ day, so we had a boys’ day. It was so vast. It was like everybody from accountants to all blue collar to all different types. People had, you’d never know how much money they had. They would never tell you, but everyone is because you use your consciousness all on the same manner. Everybody can actually talk and engage in exactly the same manner and everybody sees a different perspective.

David Router: Everyone sees that there’s a lot of different things going on because you’re actually talking with a whole different vocabulary. And that vocabulary is the one that can talk over all genres. And it’s the one that can also help you find what is really worthwhile in your life and what’s not worthwhile. And that’s probably the biggest thing. Once we get rid of the energy vampires by engaging in what is you, and that’s the biggest thing, we’re engaging in your consciousness so that your energy just basically compiles and compiles and compiles and compiles and compiles. And if you think about every time you compile all these different types of information that you weren’t receiving, you become incredibly confident. Why? Because you’ve got the answers and then you don’t have to go away and think about when you’re going to act or when you’re going to respond because you’ve already made a decision because you can make a decision because you have information.

David Router: That’s the biggest thing. Your energy and consciousness become one and then all of a sudden, you can make a conscious decision and think, “Yeah, I’m happy with that. I’m going to make a decision on that.” And it doesn’t mean that you’re being disrespectful to people. It’s that you’re respecting yourself to know that this is what you need. And that’s why we don’t need energy vampires because we’re being respectful for ourselves. And if we have other people that we care for, we help them. And by our energy being more efficient, all of a sudden they become more efficient as well. They don’t necessarily need to do all the exercises that you’ve done. Sometimes they won’t be as efficient as you, but you can help them just simply by being around. It’s like what they call osmosis. It just basically works, doesn’t it? As you found the people around you, everybody starts to engage and everybody thinks it’s a large lateral thought process.

David Router: Everybody takes on a lot of different information. It’s not a narrow bandwidth of information. We’re talking enormous bandwidths of information, which means that you see so much different perspectives. Then you can see what is good about somebody. You can see what their strengths are, et cetera, et cetera. And you can help somebody here and there or they can help you. It’s a mutual exchange and it’s not that sucky, sucky. It’s a sharing a version.

Wendy Myers: Yeah. And it feels good and doesn’t drain you.

David Router: Yeah. And as we become more capable, boy life just trundles on and every day’s a good day.

Wendy Myers: Yeah. Well, David, all I can say is I’ve just really treasured the time I’ve had working with you. I continue to work with you. This whole coronavirus thing, I was like really, really stressed and working with you. It was about twice a month, the last couple of months to kind of just figure it out and release the stress and should I be worried or not. And it just really helped me keep grounded and keep my perspective and whatnot and help communicate a healthy message to other people about the coronavirus and whatnot. For me, like I said, you’ve just been really invaluable in helping me with learning more about myself and energy and protecting my energy and improving my life dramatically. And I really encourage anyone listening to learn more about David Router. Go to R-O-U-T-E-R and try these simple rounding exercises you. Tell us about how to work with you. I know you work with people one-on-one, but you have group coaching too.

David Router: Just for this, we’re going to do a small group of people because actually, believe it or not, although you can work on one-on-one with me, I often find groups of people work better because everyone sees the strength. Sometimes we don’t naturally see a strength in ourselves. We think we do, but often we don’t. We miss a lot of strengths that we have and it’s really fun to see that when people work together, they’ll go, because you can see people working together because we don’t do large groups. They’re still small groups. They’re still intimate. I try not to work on areas like this, more than 10 people. Yeah. I might do hundreds, sometimes when I do whole workshops or even 1,000 but in these small intimate groups, it doesn’t matter where you work, everybody starts working together because everyone sees certain strengths that somebody has.

David Router: I think it’s subconsciously on some levels because you’re using neutral energy, you find how to turn certain strengths of yourself that they’re there, but they’re not turned on fully. They’re just being detuned because we all have lots and lots and lots of strengths. There’s so many things in life we have that is, but as we’ve been detuned we aren’t so confident in that area. But as we, for some reason, when we work with other people sometimes, I’ve noticed that people have a lot more fun in groups. They’re not so serious about it. That’s the big thing about energy work. It should be fun. It’s not serious-serious. We just need to take it like it’s a natural progression in life. And people do have a lot of fun when they end up working with it.

David Router: It’s not like I’m going to a yoga class where you really got to work so hard, hard, hard. It’s just you can enjoy what you’re doing. Yeah. You find some stuff that works and some stuff that didn’t work, message fine what didn’t work as you turn it back on, it’s like, “Cool, now I’m getting a lot more messages. This is good.” And as you’ve noticed, as you get a lot of messages, you invariably smile. I liken it to like a smile machine gun because you can see and you can feel the smiles coming in and out in people because that’s basically joy because we get a lot of joy as we get self-messages because you think about it, the less messages we have, the less joy we have in life.

David Router: The more messages we have about ourselves that are important and that are intrinsic, then all of a sudden we turn it on and boy, we’re starting to enjoy ourselves again. We’re starting to notice that we matter. And like, “Oh, there’s some really good stuff here.” That’s why I encourage people to, even if you have a big problem, try a group class first and then come and see me on a personal matter because you’ve already got your energy working. If you do have something that you might feel is slightly embarrassing or whatever, I can always work with you one-on-one. I think we’ve got 50% off, I forget what we’ve got off, we got $50 off on a one-on-one, but we also have group sessions, which we’re going to give you a better deal on.

David Router: I would encourage people, even if you want to see me on one-on-one, please come and see me in a group because you’ll have a little bit more fun and you won’t be quite so serious. Yes, there might be something that you want to work on later on and don’t worry, we can do it. Well, we’ve all worked on some serious stuff here because I’ve worked on some pretty intimate problems with a lot of people. But I’d encourage people to just work in a group first, get your energy moving, because we have a lot of basic energy things. It doesn’t matter if you’re going to work with me one-on-one or whatever. We’ve got to get those moving anyway. I encourage people to work, integrate with me, have fun, don’t take it too seriously. The people in the group, it’s very neutral. Nothing gets sort of shared too much outside that group. Everyone is very respectful. I make sure of that because if anyone wasn’t respectful, my energy would cut them off. When you know how to use energy, you don’t take any crap.

Wendy Myers: Definitely noticed that, but with myself. I’m just I’m done because I just I feeling so much more powerful. Like you said, I feel so much more confident with my decisions. I also feel that joy when I wake up, I’m so happy. I’m excited about life. I’m looking forward to the future. I just feel like you’ve just changed my life so much and I’m just so grateful to you, David. And like I said, I highly, highly encouraged people to learn about your work, work with you. You have a book, Functional Consciousness. Lots of ways to work with you. Go to and check out his work.

David Router: Yeah, check me out and come and have a good time. We’ll change your life so that you can find one, we don’t have all those energy vampires and as I say, you turn on a lot of things on, so that you find the strength in yourself that might be just a little bit detuned. We turn it all back on and we find a lot more joys in life and you find that people engage differently. And a lot of people find a lot of different tools that they use in their everyday life. Be it just family. And I have so many tools people work with. Even if you’re a CEO or whatever, there’s lots of highly intuitive business people who I’ve worked with over the years and they’ve all found it beneficial. So, whatever.

Wendy Myers: Fantastic. Yeah, like me for sure.

David Router: Let’s face it, sometimes for those people who’ve got a really intimate problem, they want help. There’s heaps of those who I help as well. Come and say hello.

Wendy Myers: Yeah. Well, David, thanks so much for coming on the show. Everyone, thank you so much for listening to the Myers Detox podcast where we talk about how to detox heavy metals and energy vampires. Thanks for tuning in and I will talk to you guys next week.