Transcript #515 Permanent Pain Relief Using an Equiscope with John Thorp
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- Today we learn about John Thorp and his Equiscope.
- Find out about upcoming classes and docuseries.
- Get to know John Thorp’s background.
- Find out what can be treated with the Equiscope.
- Learn about the technology behind the Equiscope.
- Discover the difference between an Equiscope and a TENS machine.
- Find out how Equiscopes use facials for all body healing.
- Hear a discussion about our electric bodies.
- Get to John’s web site and find a practitioner.
Dr. Wendy Myers: Hello, everyone. I’m Dr. Wendy Myers. Welcome to the Myers Detox Podcast. We have an amazing show for you today. We’re going to be talking about a device called the Equiscope. It’s a device that I own, and I’ve used it for really a couple of years now and was introduced to it by a friend of mine, Dr. Michael Rinkin, who’s been, I guess, on the podcast before. But today we’re going to interview the inventor, John Thorp.
We’re going to talk about how this device, the Equiscope, reestablishes communication of the body, charges up the voltage of the cells, and really uses the highway in the body, the acupuncture points to address so many different issues in the body. I talk about how I use the device for facials. That’s one of my anti-aging secrets, and it really serves to tone the muscles and the tendons and tone the skin as well, as well as drain the lymph in the body and in the face as well. And so there’s just a lot of different uses for this device.
It’s used by jockeys, trainers, and champion racehorses so that they can win the Kentucky Derby and the horses that are going from losing all the time to then winning all the races and winning the Kentucky Derby. There are really a lot of amazing stories that John is going to be telling us. He talks about how he trains all kinds of MMA fighters and jiu jitsu fighters and helps get them back in the ring, recovering from their injuries faster, and recovering from surgeries faster. And really it’s just an amazing device that can do what no other device can do.
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Our guest today, John Thorp, founded Intelligent Bioenergetics to distribute the Equiscope, which is an advanced, intelligent bioenergetic microcurrent device, and he distributes it internationally. John is also the founder and president of Thorp Institute of Integrative Medicine, a medical management company established in 1995 and a leading authority on microcurrent technologies. With 30-plus years of experience in the field of electromedicine, he’s administered and taught proprietary clinically proven protocols to clients and practitioners worldwide.
John Thorp’s introduction to electrotherapy came in 1986 when he shattered his tibia, fibula, and femur bones under his right knee, and he was told that without a total knee replacement, he would probably be crippled for life. But he used this device, the Equiscope, to recover fully and completed a triathlon one year later. After attending the Institute of Oriental Medicine to study acupuncture, John established protocols for this technology, introducing unheard-of success rates and the reduction of chronic pain.
John’s expertise in the clinical use of this world-renowned microcurrent device led to the eventual ownership and operation of two full-phase medical clinics. You can learn more about John and his work and the Equiscope device at intellbio.com. But John, thank you so much for being on the show.
John Thorp: My pleasure.
Dr. Wendy Myers: So why don’t you tell us a little bit about yourself and your background? You founded a company that sells a device called the Equiscope, and we’re going to delve into all that, what it is and what it does. But how did you get involved with founding the company?
John Thorp: Well, this has been a 36-year journey. So January 6th of 1986, I shattered my tibia, my fibula, and my femur, all under the knee joint, and in a non-stunt related. I’ve been a stuntman. I was a stuntman for over 30 years. That was my entire life, was on shows like Hawaii Five-0 and Six Million Dollar Man and things that were before your time. But Magnum PI was involved with the creation of that show. And so January 6th of ’86, I shattered my tib, fib, and femur all under the knee joint and the orthopedic surgeon put me back together again.
And he said, “Your tibia plateau is about 56 pieces. They’re like Humpty Dumpty, and I put three pins and 12 screws and two plates, but after I got in there, you’ll never bend the knee. So what I’m preparing you for right now is a total knee replacement.” I said, “Well, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.” I said, “How long do these knee replacements last?” He said, “Well, let me give you the good news. The good news is your Screen Actors Guild Insurance will pay for it.”
I said, “All right, well, how long do these needs last?” And he said, “Well, 10, 15, maybe 20 years.” I was 36 years old. So I said, “When I’m 56, best case scenario, I’m going to have to do it all over again.” “Well, we just don’t know.” So I said, “That doesn’t sound too good.” So I called Lee Majors who we were prepping for a new show called Fall Guys and Lee is a $6 million man. So I said, “Lee, you know I can come back. They want to do a knee replacement. The Screen Actors Guild will pay for it.”
He said, “John, there’s a 100 younger faster guys that don’t have an $80,000 knee.” He said, “You have to come to California and try this Accujack machine that I was just in Kerlan and Jobe, who are the number one orthopedic surgeons for the NFL, the NBA, the PGA, on and on.” He said, “I was just in their office and you know how bad my knees are, and I got three treatments on these two machines.” It used to be two bigger machines. I won’t go into what they were called, because a lot of people like to say it’s just the two machines built into one, and that’s just not true, so I’m not going to feed them. But anyway, he said, “You got to fly to California and get this Accujack machine.” And I said, “Lee, I’m sitting here with my leg in the air and I’m on a morphine drip, and they’ve done a bone graft off my hip to putty the top of the plateau together and how am I going to get out of the hospital?”
And although now it’s legal here in the United States, he said, “I saw you smoking pot with all those cops off on the side and you didn’t even invite me over.” And I said, “I teach tactical driving for the Honolulu Police Department, and I use a lot of Honolulu police officers. When stunt guys give me a problem, I’ll go, “Hey, instead of making $75 today, how’d you like to make 500? I’m going to mount cameras in your car and you’re going to chase me around.” “Really, 500? I’m in.” So I couldn’t buy a speeding ticket. I’d give him my ID. “Oh, you’re that guy, that stunt guy. Anyways, I had five Honolulu police officers show up and on tequila, beer, and Percodans, we drove onto the tarmac. In those days you could drive right onto the runway, and they loaded me in a wheelchair on tequila beer and Percodans into first class with dripping blood out of my drain tube.
And about halfway through the flight, that’s when the morphine wore off and I just went, what did you do? The pain and the sickness from the tequila, beer, and Percodans were not a good combo, but it worked for the first three hours, and then it became excruciatingly painful. To make a long story short, I went to these doctors, the first day that I showed up there, they said I had 168 sutures and I was leaking blood out of it. They go, “How’d this guy get?” And I show up in a limousine with a big, huge bodyguard. And they go, “How’d this guy get out of a hospital? And he is leaking blood on our floor.” And I said, “I’m here to get that Accujack machine that Lee Majors told me about.”
They said, “What? He didn’t get any special machine.” And I kept seeing these big Black athletes going into a private room on the side. I said, “What are those guys getting?” Oh, we just treat them privately, so they’re not autograph-hounded by all the people here.” And I looked into their physical therapy room and they had like six benches with 10 people on each bench, squeezing towels, doing the lotion potion range of motion. They said, “No, Lee Major’s got ultrasounds.” I said, “No, he didn’t. He got some special machine that’s in the private room. No, no, no, no, no.” And then I started going, “Wait a minute.” And the tequila, beer percodans, and everything else kicked in. And I started using some unfavorable language about how I had just flown this whole way and WTF is going on here. So it basically kicked me out and said, “You don’t even look like Lee Majors and dah, dah, dah, and just some rich kid that escaped a hospital on our front step.
No, I was staying with Lee, went to Malibu that night and Lee happened to have some better drugs, so I felt a little better. He says, “I’ll go with you tomorrow and we’ll see who’s lying.” So the following day he showed up there and they went, “Oh my God, that really is, Lee Majors is here, 6 billion Man, and that guy wasn’t lying.” So I ended up having Kerlan and Jobe both come down and Lee yanked open the room and there were the two instruments sitting there, which were called the Acuscope and the Myopulse. They were called. One was for neurological, one was for connective tissue, and there was Karl Malone, the basketball player sitting there and he said, “That’s an Acuscope and a Myopulse. Why’d you lie to my stunt guy?” “Oh, we didn’t lie.” And I said, “They didn’t, but she did and he did, and he did. They all told me, “you got an ultrasound.”
So he said, “Listen, from what we heard about your guy, he was a little belligerent and didn’t treat our people well. If he wants to go through this therapy, it’s $250 a treatment, no insurance, pays cash every day.” And in 10 days I was off all my pain medication, but I still couldn’t bend my leg. But after 10 days, no more pain medication. And so then I was okay, I ended up doing five or six months there, five days a week. And when I could spend extra time treating myself when nobody else was coming into the room, I made friends with the therapist, I said, “Can I just sit here and treat myself?” So I still couldn’t bend the leg. I bought in on an old rundown mineral hot springs up in Big Bear, and I went up there where the Indians go to heal.
I’ve always had a thing with Native American Indians that they had the right idea. So I went up to Big Bear and I started pulling on the leg. But before I left, I said, “Where can I buy these machines myself?” And at that time they were 20,000, 10,000 each, and it was a big secretive thing on where you could even buy these things because there’s no money in cure and there’s no reimbursement for it, and that’s why they didn’t want to. And they also told me if I told one person what I was going through in the private room, they would DC me and kick me out, because they didn’t want the other people to know they were running the mill. Each one of those people on that bench was generating $250 an hour and it took one guy to see 10 people per hour. So they had six podiums with 10, 10, 10 at 2,500 each.
So being a nobody spending the 250 with a one-on-one therapist, although they’d come in and put the plates on me and walk out of the room and go back to the podiums. So anyway, I went through that. So I still had a couple of brand new Mazda RX-7s that I got for doing some commercials and driving for Mazda at the time. And I had the pink slips to those cars because I was out of money now. I had about 35,000. I had spent it all on treatment. And so I got pink slips for my cars and a coin collection. I went in and I found these guys that were distributing the devices and I walked out on the best day of my life. They said, “Do you know anything about horses?” And I go, “Yeah.” “Well, we need somebody treating racehorses and horses and we don’t know anything about horses.”
I said, “I was raised with horses all my life. I know everything about a horse.” So they said, “Well, we could set you up with this veterinarian, Dr. Bob Bradley at the Equestrian Center, and you could make 50 bucks a horse and do 500 a day because you do one horse on one machine and one on the other, and you could do 10 horses in five hours and you can make 500 a day.” This is great. So anyways, I ended up with those machines in a horse stall treating horses, and the first horse I treated, Bob brought to me and he said, “It’s the right front shoulder.” And so I treated the right front shoulder and he came back about an hour later and he tried the horse out. He goes, “Nice job. Right front. Too bad you made him lame the rear left. I’ve never seen him this lame on the hind left.”
I said, “Oh shit, okay, let me go back and treat the hind left.” So I treated the hind left and he comes back, he goes, “Now it’s front left,” another hour front left. Then he goes, “Now it’s right.” Treated the hind. So now I’ve treated this whole horse. I’ve been there for six and a half hours, seven hours. And he finally trots the horse out. He goes, “Nice job. Here’s your 50 bucks.” So I said, “I just spent seven hours on this horse for $50.”
So I ended up going to the library that night. I said, “I heard this thing has something to do with acupuncture.” So I went to the library that night. I found a bunch of books on horses and acupuncture. Each one of them had different labels for the points, but they were all in the same basic thing. But some had F-L which really meant front left. And the others were all in Chinese. So the following day, since I saw that the bladder meridian was located along the spine, I said, “Well, I could treat the whole horse if I just do a spine.” So Bob brings me the horse and he says, “It’s still right front.”
So I treat the right front shoulder. So I said, “I’m going to treat his back.” He goes, “There’s nothing wrong with his back.” I said, “Well, let me just for the shits and giggles, let me treat his spine.” He said, “There’s nothing wrong with his spine.” I said, “Okay.” He goes, “I’ll see you later. Good luck.” So I went and treated his spine and about 45 minutes later, Bob came back by, I said, “Hey Bob, trot this horse out.” So he trots him down the lane, trots him back. Then he goes into his office and gets out his lunge line and takes his lunge line and takes him to the right, taking him left. He goes, “His sound. What did you do?” “I treated his back.” He goes, “Well, okay, next horse.” So boom, now I’m on. So I ended up treating and then moved to San Anita.
I went to San Anita. They said, “Oh, there’s a vet down here in San Anita. There’s a trainer that’ll allow you to come in there.” And so I started treating horses at the racetrack and the jockey said, “Hey amigo, I see you take those plates from the horse’s ass and put them on your knee. Look at that. Oh, your knee. Whoa, that thing is fat and ugly. Whoa. Can you walk on that?” I said, “Yeah, this is the magic of what’s bringing me back.” “Hey, what could you do for my neck? I can’t turn my neck.” I said, “Well, I’m not supposed to be treating people, but it’s only really for horses and I’m approved to treat it for horses.” And so he says, “Hey, well, you treat yourself, treat me.” So I treated the guy’s neck and after I treated him, he went, “Oh my goodness, how long is it going to last?”
I said, “I don’t know.” So about two hours later, he comes walking back, and he says, “Amigo, I won the sixth race. I haven’t won a race in three months, because I couldn’t turn my neck. I could see. I could see the guy coming up. I went to the whip, I could see them.” He said, “You’re a miracle man. Miracle man.” So now I started treating the jockeys. They all start showing up. I got jockeys in their underpants in the horse stall. Then the owners started showing up like, “Treat my back. You treated my jockey, you treated my horse, treat me.” So that’s how it began. And then I went, I’m going to align myself with a chiropractor or something. My buddy had just bought in on this old rundown mineral hot springs in Big Bear and had a chiropractor who knew how to build to what we were doing.
If you broke it down correctly, the stem biofeedback, neuromuscular reeducation, and the right codes. And he was an older chiropractor and his wife had been running his business and new insurance billing. So boom, I moved to Big Bear, and a year from the date of the injuryI ran my first triathlon on a leg. They said, I’ve never bent.. Now I had to pull on the leg to get it to bend, but every time I would pull on it because I was like this on the exercise bike, I couldn’t do a full. But each day I’d pull on the leg and it would blow up so big I couldn’t get my pants on over my knee. That’s how it was, like a grapefruit. And then I’d go back in my trailer and I’d treat myself and it’d shrink enough that I could put my pants on the next day.
So I continued to treat myself and each day I would mark with a little magic marker that I was a little further, a little further, an eighth of an inch further, an eighth of an inch further. And then finally one day I went all the way around and I went to get a bicycle. So I was swimming in our old rundown mineral hot springs. I was doing the hot and cold stuff. Then I got on the bike so I could swim. I could bike, now could I run? So in my shuffling little way, I began to run a year from the date of the injury, I ran my first triathlon and I ran.
Dr. Wendy Myers: That’s amazing. That’s amazing.
John Thorp: So I called my orthopedic surgeon and I said, “I just ran a triathlon on a leg you said would never bend.” He said, “You did what? You’re bone on bone. You have no cartilage.” I said, “I don’t care what I have or what I don’t have, I just ran a triathlon.” He says, “Well, you’re the stupidest human being I have ever met, to run on a leg that has no cartilage. You’re going to be begging me for that knee replacement. You dumb.” Not a nice word. So anyway, I continued to run triathlons. And so then Tom Selleck had to do a knife fight scene with a guy, an actor that resembled me, and the actor almost stabbed him. So he said, “This guy looks like John Thorp. Whatever happened to John Thorp? here he’s in mainland California with Lee Majors. So anyways, does he want to come back on the show, because he’d be a perfect double for this guy and this guy almost stabbed me.” So they called me and said, “Hey John, are you ready to come back to work?”
And I had just had some incidents with the chiropractor, ran off with all of our billing, and that was about the hale bopp cult time. And they ran off and thought they were going to get beamed. They were a little out there, thought they were going to get beamed up or something. Took off 40,000 of my receivables. And so I went, you know what? It’s time to go home. Went back to Hawaii. And then being in the stunt trailer, I had my machines with me. So any little injury, this is a torn off bicep tendon, ripped a bicep right off, taken in a car. But I was able to rehab that overnight and didn’t miss out on a $10,000 day. So they were just with me. And then people started saying, “Go see John on the stunt trailer. He can make anybody’s pain go away.”
And I said, “I’m not a doctor, don’t send me people. I have these machines for me. I treat horses, but I’m not supposed to be treating people unless I’m under a physician, a doctor, chiropractor, physical therapist, or a licensed healthcare provider.” So they said, “But listen, it’s one of our extra’s mothers.” Well, first it was one of our security guys who was an ex-homicide and vice detective who got shot six times and couldn’t get his arm above his belly button. And so I offered to him, I said, “Detective Suson, I think I can help you.” He says, “Now I can’t move this arm. I got shot six times, blah, blah, blah, chasing up perp, went through a glass window.” So in three weeks, I had his arm above his head. And so it was like, came back, tears in his eyes, “I hugged my children for the first time in three years. I got both my arms around my kids.”
He says, “I hope you don’t mind, but I told my neighbor who’s had chronic migraine headaches and her daughter’s an extra on the set and she’s had these headaches for 11 years and they’re debilitating for her. Do you think it would help?” I said, “Detective, I’m not supposed to be treating people.” He’s like, “Well, she’s a nurse and anyways, she’s my neighbor. She saw what you did for me.” So about that time, I said, “Okay, listen, if people want to sit down with me, they’re going to have to pay me. But I had a release not to be considered a medical treatment of any kind. Said donation. It’s what, but you’re going to pay me. If you’re going to sit with me, you’re going to pay me.” It was like 115 bucks is what number I came up to.
And so this woman came in and so I treated her headache points on her large intestine form and large intestine 11. And I put a headband on her and about. I treated her for about 10 sessions. And after the 10th session, she said, “I didn’t want to say anything to you, John, because I thought it was too good to be true. I haven’t had a headache since the third treatment you gave me. And I’ve had these headaches for 11 years.” And so she said, “I hope you don’t mind, but I told my boss, who is the president and he’s a doctor of Loma Linda Castle Medical Center.” I said, “Mary Ellen, geez, I’m not a doctor. They throw people in jail for practicing medicine without a license. I’m not a doctor.” She said, “Well, he’s a marathon runner and he can’t run. He was competitive. He’s competitive at 50, at 52. He can’t get past 12 miles. Would you help him?”
And I said, “I don’t want to get in trouble.” She said, “Well, he’s the neighbor of Detective Suson. He’s our neighbor. He saw what you did for him. He saw what you did for me. He just wants to run again, and I’m sure he won’t mind, but if you would.” So I get the knock on the door a few days later, and the guy hands me his card, Dr. John Munge, president of Castle Medical Center, Loma Linda. He said, “I hear you do miracles.” I said, “I hear you throw people in jail for practicing medicine without a license.” He said, “No, no, no.” He says, “You fix my neighbors. I want to run again. Can you help me?” I said, “Yeah, I can help you. It’s going to be this amount of money, sign this release.”
So I started treating him. He says, “Could I come five days a week?” I said, “Yeah, you can come five days a week.” So on, again, about the eighth or ninth treatment, I got a phone call from him, because he couldn’t get past 12 miles, he would tighten up. He would cramp up and lock them up, and he was done. He said, “I ran 17 miles today.” I said, “Ah, you broke the 12-mile mark. He said, “The Honolulu marathon is coming up. What do you think? Would I destroy everything you’ve done?” I said, “Go for it.” I said, “It’s only a few more miles.” I said, “Go for it.”So he ran his best time ever in the marathon, came back to me and he said, “you have to share what you’re doing with the world.” He says, “Would you take a position at my hospital?”
I said, “I’m no doctor. I’m a stuntman.” He said, “You did what 80 physicians couldn’t do. They injected me, they did this, they did that. They stretched me, and none of their crap worked, yours did. I’m running again.” So I said, “Why would I want to go into a hospital that’s full of infection and feeds people shitty food?” And I said, “I don’t want to be in that environment. And besides that, and it’s like, I don’t want to be listening that night. He says, “Listen, I’ll pay you a thousand dollars a day if you’ll come in and just see five patients. And I think it could be a win-win because I’m only getting one day for an appendectomy. And if they’re in for two or three, I have to pay for those beds.”
And he said, “And by the way, I don’t feed people crappy food. We Are vegetarians. We’re Seventh-day Adventists. We’re vegetarians. I don’t have any carpets in my hospital. We have a very low infection rate.” So he trumped me on everything that I said about, “I don’t want to be in a hospital.” He said, “I see you taking over our entire OT PT program and overseeing all of our physical therapists with this miracle machine.” So he said, “Would you try it for a week?” And I ended up, I was with him for four years. I oversaw over 40,000 patient hours. And that’s where we’re at today.
Dr. Wendy Myers: Okay, fantastic. Well, why don’t you tell us what are some of the kinds of conditions that you can address with an Equiscope? Because it’s really diverse, the amount of things that I’ve heard that it can be used for.
John Thorp: Well, you stay safe by saying, “I work with a pain associated with whatever disease or whatever damage, injury disease that you may have, so don’t get out, I fix cancer, I do this.” I had a woman there who had brain cancer. She had headaches. So I treated the headaches. The family came out, they were going to put her in hospice. She was 86 years old. Emily Zobosky. And so she was 86 years old and they were ready to put her in hospice. And she went out and got her driver’s license. She went, “I don’t have headaches, I don’t have any.” And so whatever happened to her brain cancer, she lived for another five or six years and her family went, “What did you do to my aunt?” And that was at the same time I started training other people.
So people said, “Well, it’s only him. He’s the only one who gets these results because he is like a healer. So I said, “I’m no healer. I’m a facilitator. The only one that can heal you is you.” And so everything from, you name it, I treated people with cancer, aids, MS, ALS, all kinds of immune diseases, strained sprains, breaks, athletes, horses, it didn’t matter. A cell is a cell. And then as I kept studying, I studied Royal Raymond Rife, I studied Tesla, I studied all the stuff that they were doing.
Rife’s cancer cure rate was 86%. He was getting his patients directly from USC. Dr. Milbank Johnson and he did all these patients at Eleanor Scripps. You now hear about Scripps, but her little annex back in the late ’20s and the early ’30s and Rife was fixing people with frequency, different from what we were doing. He was actually using low-level X-ray machines. So he was using X-ray frequencies, only very low level, but he built a five-foot-tall microscope that he could look at viruses and bacteria under his microscope because nobody had a microscope like Rife did. And so Rife had a spectrum analysis microscope back in the ’30s.
Then with his X-ray technology, he built an X-ray machine for Henry Timken, TimkenSteel, and Ball Bearings. And he x-rayed the ball bearings. This was like during World War I when he was coming off the assembly line, and he could find flaws in the ball bearings with his X-ray device. And he actually built a boat that had 2,400 horsepower for Timken, and he set the first world records in open ocean racing. Royal Raymond Rife.
Dr. Wendy Myers: I love him. I love his work.
John Thorp: And Rife piloted the boat. So I said, “He’s a stunt guy.”
Dr. Wendy Myers: What is the technology behind Equiscope? So how does it work exactly?
John Thorp: So Equiscope is what in technical terms is known as phase, lock, and loop. So we have three different defense department contractors that build our equipment, the lie detectors from Langley and SDI, Strategic Defense Initiatives, That different. That device is made here in the United States. A Strategic Defense Initiative was Star Wars stuff. So seeking a self-correcting mechanism that continually changes its signal until it hits the target. Communications, that’s the high Alpha Aurora project guys, so that kind of technology is there. This isn’t just an output device, as soon as we excite the tissue, we capture the behavior of your autonomic nervous system’s response to our excitation. So it’s called Mutual Excitation. So as I excite your tissue, your brain is supposed to respond to my excitation in one 10th of a billionth of a millisecond. If it responds in one-eighth of a 10th of a billionth, of a millisecond, it goes, oh, something’s not right.
Equiscope means equation solved. So every injury is a mathematical signature. I don’t care whether it aids, MS, cancer, or ALS, whatever disease you’ve got puts out a mathematical signature. The entire world is mathematics. And that’s what the developer is, is a mathematician physicist. And so it calculates and corrects just like that heat-seeking missile, that abnormality, that mathematical signature that it’s seen until it returns to one 10th of one billionth to the millisecond. It goes 10, it takes off looking for anything else in the body because you’re a water beam. That’s why when people go, “When you’re treating my shoulder, how come my knee got better?” Because you’re 86% water. So it’s just like, I don’t care where you throw an electrical radio. You can throw it in the deep end of your swimming pool. If it’s plugged into the wall and you stick your finger in the shallow water and you get shocked, wherever you stick your finger in the water, you’re going to get shocked in your big swimming pool.
So when we capture the behavior of the response of your autonomic nervous system and validate and correct it to what we know to be and what using artificial intelligence, it’s looking at all kinds of healthy cells in your body. You have a couple of trillion cells in your body that are all resonating, so that’s why we start off at wider frequencies when we’re looking at what’s good in this body. It can’t all just be poisoned. So it finds the good cells because we’re all different. We’re all a little bit different. So why fingerprints, not one fingerprint. You’re a little snowflake. There’s not one snowflake that matches another snowflake. And so that’s the way this is. And as I said, everything is mathematics. So as soon as we excite your tissue, we’re capturing that behavior, we’re capturing that mathematical signature of your injury or disease or your pathology, and we’re correcting it in milliseconds.
How long it lasts, that’s the variable. People go, “You healed that guy, you cured him.” I said, “No, no, no, no, no. I’ve never healed or cured anybody. The miracle here is the human body. Give it what it needs. It’ll heal itself. I can’t control what you put in your mouth. That’s up to you. I can’t get you cardio fit. That’s up to you. I can electrify you and detoxify you because, in 1991, two German scientists proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, Dr. Neher and Dr. Sackmann, that cells are controlled electrically and not biochemically. Didn’t hear much about that, did you? Big pharma doesn’t want you to know much about that, that you’re electrical before your biochemical, that the electrical sets up the biochemical response. But again, you’ve got to fuel correctly. And as the doctors, and now we have a lot of doctors on board with us, that is the real good care, that is practice medicine for 40 years.
Unfortunately, Dr. Sinatra has passed away, and one of the top cardiologists in the world, Dr. Richard Delaney, cardiology, functional medicine, internal medicine, and geriatrics, all board certified, practiced medicine for 40 years. They see what we’re doing. They go, “John, I can’t believe the looks on my patient’s face. And they get off the table and they go, what happened to the pain? You did that, then what happened? How could you do that?” So miraculously, fuel it correctly, exercise it, electrify it, and the cheapest Equiscope you can find is to take your shoes off and go walk on the grass. And that’s what Dr. Sinatra, who basically helped save his son’s life. Then when he saved one of his very expensive resource lives, and he was on board with me and one of my dearest and best friends, he’s written about 20 books in metabolic cardiology and on and on. Dr. Steven Sinatra.
Dr. Wendy Myers: And I have a few friends that use Equiscopes in their practice. One has a pain clinic, and he just told me story after story after story of getting very, very quick results of mitigating pain, long-term pain, people in pain for 20 years, and just reestablishing communication in the body and maybe scrambling the pain signals and just all the various ways that it works in the body just result in really amazing results.
John Thorp: It’s not scrambling the signals. That’s what a TENS device does. Transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation scrambles, it sends the signal off so it doesn’t go up your dorsal horn up your spine and hit your brain and say, “I hurt.” That’s a TENS device. We’re not scrambling anything.
Dr. Wendy Myers: Maybe I’m trying to simplify, maybe in people’s brains it works.
John Thorp: Right, because that’s different. We’re not scrambling. Pain is going away because we’ve opened the gates , allowing waste departure nutrient intake, which is known as voltage-sensitive ion channels. That’s what we’re doing physiologically. That’s what we’re doing down at the base of the cell. That was discovered only in 1991. This is what Chinese medicine is based on highly conductive points in your body. Has Chinese medicine gone anywhere in 10,000 years? No. We’ve had our medicine for a little over a couple of hundred years and they’re getting paid for it. The doctors didn’t go to the art of medicine school. They went to pharma college and they learned what they learned. They learned how to cut you and drug you. And I haven’t made a lot of friends, and nor did I make a lot of friends at Castle Medical Center. They all wanted to see me fail because I called them all out on their BS. I want every doctor in here that first does no harm, to stand up. You know how many stood up.
Then I could see Dr. Munge going, “Oh no, here he goes.” I said, “Don’t give a stuntman a microphone. I’ll call you all out on your BS.” I find a lot of guys with BS to try and get into my industry and they get killed or hurt. So I take everything just like I do when I’ve got a stunt. I got to figure out, the stunt says, this guy dies in the scene. I got to figure out how not to die and how to get paid as much money as possible for them to even think that I’m going to get killed doing this. And that’s the way that I’ve dealt with this business the whole way through. It’s just, here’s the truth.
Dr. Wendy Myers: Yes. And when I went to my friend’s clinic that has an Equiscope. They actually have three Equiscopes and they were working on my lower back, which I’ve been having chronic pain with. And then he said, “Hey, why don’t I just give you a facial and you’re going to love this. You’re going to love the results.” And I was like, “Okay.” So I could not believe how much different my face looked after an hour.
John Thorp: Well, your face does look amazing.
Dr. Wendy Myers: Thank you.
John Thorp: Looking in your face, absolutely not a wrinkle anywhere. You look amazing.
Dr. Wendy Myers: Thank you. Well, there are some good Zoom filters, but I am 51. I am 51, and I use the Equiscope at least once a month on my face because it has features on it where you can drain the lymph, drain the fluid, and then you can also strengthen the elasticity of the skin. It just seems to tone the skin and the muscles underneath. And I have a feeling at the same time, I’m also improving brain connections and functions and a lot of other benefits while I’m treating my face.
John Thorp: Your face has all the acupuncture points and everything for your kidney, your liver, your lungs, your heart, and your spleen. So just in your face. We go through the ear, the teeth, the hands, the feet, the spine, and lymph drainage. There are access points to every part of your body through every tooth in your mouth, every organ in your body, every joint, every muscle tendon all having to do with your teeth. Your ear is an inverted fetus. So it’s like you treat the whole body in just the ear. It’s a little bit uncomfortable. But when you get really good with that device, I’ve solved a lot of problems when nothing else is working by going to the ear or the teeth, hands, and feet. We all know about reflexology, spine, and bladder meridian. At the same time, you’re doing everything that chiropractic is based on.
Every vertebrae has to do with the kidney, liver, lung, heart, and spleen. So you’re just going through every channel, every pathway. And basically, as I say, there was a movie, Bonnie and Clyde. “How’d you fix the car there, Lloyd?” And he goes, “There was dirt. There’s dirt in the fuel line, just blow it away.” Well, that’s what we do with your body. We remove the dirt in your fuel lines and we allow your body to be the miracle it was set up to be.
Dr. Wendy Myers: Yes. And it’s interesting. I was talking about the facial that I got. I immediately bought one following that experience. I was very, very impressed. And so I got my own. I wanted to do my facials at home, but there are a lot of estheticians who use this device as well. I even heard of one with Gwynne Paltrow. I remember her talking about a device where she’s toning her muscles. And I was like, that was an Equiscope that she was talking about. There’s talk to estheticians in Los Angeles, and there are many estheticians that use this device because of the results.
John Thorp: The funny thing with the whole esthetician world was I opened a big Beverly Hills clinic back in 1995, and this woman had TMJ. And so I was treating her TMJ, both internally with a probe inside of her mouth and then around the mandible. And then I would use the Y probe under her jowls because all this stuff, well, it tightened and toned her facial muscles. So all of her girlfriends said, “Mary Ellen, what have you done? Your face looks incredible. I got this. I had TMJ. And so this guy treated me at this clinic in Beverly Hills and they go, “What’s his name?” So all of a sudden, I have all these people that have TMJ.
I’m going, what?” “What dentist referred you?” And they said, “I don’t mind. I’ll pay the 250. You did a good job. I want you to do it.” And I said, “What dentist referred you to me with your TMJ?” “Oh, I don’t have TMJ, but I liked what you did for my friend’s jowls. She no longer has a saggy jowl.” I’m like, “I’m not a facialist. I’m a stunt guy who wants to go” and this clinic has exploded. So anyway, that’s a lot of the stuff that happened with people yapping. I had the gal that played a bunch of female actresses that really jumped on board with the devices back in the ’90s before Equiscope became Equiscope when they combined both devices Acuscope and Myopulse into one device, the Equiscope, and then added artificial intelligence. And we added all the lie detector stuff and technology that wasn’t available back when these other devices were created and made. They’re still sold today, but the next best thing is that they’re not what we have.
If you can’t afford what we’re doing, it’s the next best thing. But there’s a lot of BS that’s gone around with them that I found in the early days that people didn’t know what they were talking about. And then for me to oversee 40,000 plus patient hours, I went, well, I’m going to produce. And I trained 20 people at Castle. We were so successful that they opened up three more clinics. So I had three at each clinic and then three more down in Maui. And so I’m overseeing 18 plus people a day. So nope, documented what they’re doing. I’m going, “Okay, try this, try this.” But every day I see, and that’s where I wrote all the reproducible clinical protocols that we can teach to anybody in four days.
Dr. Wendy Myers: And I’ve heard of people adjusting their MS successfully, because it’s a nerve issue, autoimmune nerve, people with concussions, brain injuries of any type, because just getting everything connected and talking again and optimizing functions. So it really holds promise for just so many different issues.
John Thorp: As the developer said, without what we’re doing, mankind is not going to make it because of all the dirty electricity, just us sitting here with the computer.
Dr. Wendy Myers: And speaking like EMF, EMF effects are electrical functioning. It gives us more of a positive charge where we’re supposed to be negatively charged. And the people on top of that are not sleeping on the ground anymore like they used to for millions of years. We’re not getting outside walking barefoot on the earth. And essentially our bodies evolve over millions of years connected to the earth’s frequencies. So today we need to do whatever kind of electrical or energetic modalities that we can do to emulate the electrical resonance of our body.
John Thorp: It’s known as a human wave and that’s why. How come an oak tree can live to be 500 years or beyond? A cell is a cell. But yet you can map in that oak tree every time there’s been a frequency change, you’ll see something in the rings of the oak tree when you cut down the branch, you cut a limb down. And that’s a lot with the body electric. And when you study really the electrical stuff. As a developer says, “We got programmed wrong. These bodies were meant to go the distance.” And that’s why when they told me, “You’ll never walk without the use of a cane,” I was pain-free and then I just broke my hip down in Panama, and I was back playing polo five and a half months later. So when you’re the face of your brand, people say, “John, you don’t have to keep hurting yourself to prove your machine works.” I haven’t been trying. It just happens, but it’s saved my life. It’s been miraculous in what it does.
Dr. Wendy Myers: And it has a wide range of applications. You can even kill bacteria with it and there are just lots of different things that it can do.
John Thorp: Well, it sets the body up to do, when we start making claims, we start getting into trouble. You stick with it. You put the body in a condition to heal itself. Your immune system is based on your body’s ability to hold the charge. Every cell in your body is a little capacitor. It’s a little battery. One side is positive, and one side is negative. The lipid is the non-conducting medium. If that lipid starts to degrade, you start to get positive leaking into negative. And that’s premature apoptosis. So we’re finding those cells where, oh, you need more negative volume. We’re strengthening that non-conducting medium so that the cell can replicate a healthier and healthier cell. So we’re taking a cell from a degenerative state to a regenerative state in a matter of milliseconds, and none of the body is the miracle it was meant to be.
And that’s the key, that’s where we got to keep our language straight so that they don’t come after us about saying that, they hate the word cure like the devil hates holy water, is to cure something. So you have to get the results. We’re a results-oriented company, that’s why we now have over 400 devices out there. So we’re making a mark, but we’re flying quietly under the radar. But soon the world’s going to know. I’ve become a resident in Dubai and I’m going to let my billionaire boys club release it to the world.
Dr. Wendy Myers: Yes. right.
John Thorp: That’s a great plan, because coming after me, I don’t have the kind of money that my clients in Dubai do.
Dr. Wendy Myers: Great. Fantastic.
John Thorp: You want to come after me? I got more money than you.
Dr. Wendy Myers: So F you.
John Thorp: Exactly. So that’s why I’ve got my team in Dubai. We’re just opening up our first really big Renzo Gracie Jujitsu Center in Dubai, and then the reset training program, training, and recovery featuring the electro Equiscope. We’ve got too big, so that soft opening is the 22nd of this month. And then December, mid-December will be our hard opening. But I deal with a lot of fighters. Naturally, they get hurt. And just recently we had Cat Zingano fighting for the title, and she put on her own clothing for Equiscope. She fought against the Cyborg gal that’s been known for her amount of abuse and steroids and everything else. But anyway, she fought a monster. She came out of there with her life. It was a good payday for her. But anyway, so I deal with a lot. And then with the Gracie name, they’re the ones that created MMA, the Gracie family-
Dr. Wendy Myers: Jujitsu.
John Thorp: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. So I’m very good friends with the top of the Gracie line. He’s come through our training who has our devices, and that’s very supportive as that’s what’s gotten us into a lot of.My partner, he was the prince of Dubai’s bodyguard for seven years. And anyway, he’s a five-degree Jiu Jitsu black belt. I hang with some of the baddest men on the planet.
Dr. Wendy Myers: And fix them back up again. They’re loyal forever.
John Thorp: They are. They are. I love them dearly. They’ve become my brothers. And for what they’ve done in the whole Jujitsu world and the whole MMA, that’s become a phenomenon.
Dr. Wendy Myers: And I want to thank you for what you’ve done to my face, but as a joke. But for anyone that I could say, practitioners, we pique some practitioner’s interest. Where can they learn more about this device and maybe even see a practitioner as well?
John Thorp: Go to our website. My wife has done an incredible job with up-leveling our website. Soon it’ll be all like, as she calls it, Apple-esque, where there’ll be videos on from the time you open your box to taking your machine out to everything explained perfectly. We will be sending a private trainer to whoever purchases, although the price is going up. The device is priceless. And they’re generating between a quarter of a million and a half million a year for currently 40, it’ll be going to 50. And it could go as high as 100.
So get in now, because once we hit where I believe we’re going to hit, it’s going to become a priceless device once people are educated, especially with the amount of problems we’re seeing due to vaccinated people. I treated a bunch in Dubai that didn’t respond well to their vaccinations. Couldn’t open their hands, and one treatment. He went, “Could you do the other hand?” 83 year old guy. His sister was married to the original ruler of Dubai. It was their vision. And to see what Dubai is today, 25 years ago, it was sand intense. And to see what those people have done.
Dr. Wendy Myers: I’ve been to Dubai a couple times. It is beyond impressive. I almost moved there, but I didn’t end up doing it.
John Thorp: No, I became a resident because I’m a little nervous about what’s going on in this country. And so for myself and my family, I made sure we were covered. And to be walking with kings, never lose the common touch. I’m walking with kings. We’ve just really begun and we’re going to do nothing, but my wife is. What’s made us very successful is there’s aftercare support. You’re not just giving a machine and saying, “Good luck.” And that was with the older devices, there was no training, there was no anything.
Dr. Wendy Myers: And you guys provide tons of training. I get emails all the time for training every month, and you can just pick up the phone and call someone or figure something out and it’s great support.
John Thorp: Right. No, that’s what it’s always needed and that’s what we have supplied thanks to my wife who’s a very people-oriented and support-oriented person. She has a nursing background and she’s just brilliant in her teaching and she’s very lucky to have such a partner. Both in my business and in my life.
Dr. Wendy Myers: Yes. So for anyone who wants to try one of these devices and find a practitioner, where can they go?
John Thorp: We’ll go to our website, www.intellbio.com, and then up in the corner, you’ll see little practitioners. Click on that and up comes a map of the United States. And you’ll see all of the old dots over. The only ones we really list are people who have aligned themselves with a healthcare practitioner or healthcare practitioners because we can’t. As much as we’d love to give everybody, but when we’re called privately and say, “Hey, I’m here.” Privately, we can say, “Well, there’s somebody that has a device that we feel is well-trained that has been through, that’s close to you, and might be a fit,” but we can only really promote those that are under a licensed healthcare provider.
Dr. Wendy Myers: Yes, understandable.
John Thorp: You got to get real. If I can do it, anybody can do it. Being a knucklehead stunt guy, all of a sudden owning medical centers. My clinic is just 2,500 square feet. We have an MD chiropractor, physical therapist, acupuncturist, and naturopathic physician, all under one roof. And I had a big sign at the door as you walked back into our plush offices that says, “Check your ego at the door. This is a patient-focused care clinic, and the stunt man checks his twice. So check your ego at the door.” And it was all about the patient. It’s about focusing on that patient, not on yourself, on that patient. And so that’s what made my clinic very successful, drove me crazy, but I fought with everybody because it was tough getting reimbursed. That’s why I had all the different genres of medical practitioners. “Okay, we’ll do it under this guy’s license, under her license. This fits more under that license.”
So we started getting reimbursed at Cedar Sinai, sending me everything from post-liver to post-heart transplants, because they couldn’t get energy to the feet. They couldn’t get blood flow to the feet or the hands. And it was like, geez, post liver, post heart transplants. Dr. Han Meyer, the head of pain at Cedar Sinai, sent me hundreds of prescriptions of patients from Cedar Sinai, one of the top medical centers in the world, all to My Stuntman Clinic.
Dr. Wendy Myers: Well, John, thank you so much for your contribution to cutting-edge alternative health. And I love the Equiscope. I love owning one. Can’t recommend it highly enough, because it’s just going to be used for almost anything. And so thank you so much for your contribution. And again, everyone goes to Intell, double L, bio.com to learn more about this amazing technology. And everyone, I’m Dr. Wendy Myers. Thanks for tuning in to the Myers Detox Podcast, where I love bringing you experts from around the world to really help you give those little pieces of the puzzle to upgrade your health because you deserve to feel good.
