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- 03:00 Micronutrients
- 05:30 Calton Nutrition books
- 07:36 The Calton Project
- 15:42 Micronutrient Miracle
- 17:42 Modern Food Deficiency
- 28:28 Diet and lifestyle habits that deplete our micronutrient supply
- 36:54 Replenishing Micronutrients in our Body
- 39:56 Nutrience
- 44:54 Most pressing health issue in the world today
- 49:02 Find the Caltons
- 50:49 In Protein
- 53:09 Skinny Fats
Wendy Myers: Welcome to the Live to 110 Podcast. My name is Wendy Myers. I am your host today. You can find me on myersdetox.com.
Today, I’m interviewing some new friends, Mira and Jayson Calton. I met them on the Livin’ La Vida Low Carb Cruise. It’s the cruise that Jimmy Moore’s hosts every year. They were really, really nice and I was really impressed by their presentation about micronutrient antagonists and some of their new product lines, new trends, skinny fad and a couple of other things. I’m so excited to have them on the show to talk about minerals and micronutrients.
We’re going to be talking about why you need to supplement minerals and what are some of the main causes of mineral deficiencies. We’re going to be talking about their new book, The Micronutrient Miracle. But first, I have to do the disclaimer. Please keep in mind that this program is not intended to diagnose any disease or health condition and is not a substitute for professional medical advice. The Live to 110 Podcast is solely informational in nature, so please consult your healthcare practitioner before engaging in any treatment that we suggest in the show. And if you guys want to go to the new site, myersdetox.com has gotten a facelift. You can go there and sign up for my free Live to 110 by Weighting Less e-guide and five free Modern Paleo Survival Guides. They’re little charts to give you a preview of coming attractions in my upcoming book, The Modern Paleo Survival Guide. You can also check out new episodes of the Modern Paleo Cooking Show where I cook recipes from the upcoming book. But today, our guests are Dr. Jayson Calton and Mira Calton.
The Caltons are among the world’s leading experts on micronutrient deficiency, on weight management and lifestyle medicine. Mira Calton is a certified nutrionist and Dr. Jasyon Calton holds a master’s and a PhD in nutrition. They are New York Times’ bestselling authors of Naked Calories, Rich Food, Poor Food (which is how I found them, discovered them) and they have an upcoming book on minerals and micronutrients that we’ll be talking about today. They also have an amazing new nutrient line called Nutreince that we’re also going to be talking about. They basically have worked literally thousands of international clientele including celebrities and athletes and corporate executives. Mira and Jayson, they really have truly dedicated their lives to learning about nutrient deficiency and educating people about nutrition. It’s their belief that becoming micronutrient-sufficient is the first step towards preventing and reversing many of today’s most prevalent health conditions and diseases. I’m so honored and excited to have them on the show.
How are you guys?
Jayson Calton: I’m great!
Mira Calton: We’re thrilled to be here. Thanks so much for having us.
Wendy Myers: Yes, sorry for that long introduction.
Jayson Calton: Not at all.
Mira Calton: Not at all.
Wendy Myers: I really wanted to let everybody know that you guys have a tremendous number of qualification and dedication to educating people about nutrients.
Mira Calton: Yeah, it’s our passion. It’s a topic that people don’t talk often enough, micronutrients is a topic that we’re now seeing so much stuff on the news and new studies coming out. I think we’re going to see a flip pretty soon here that they’re going to get the due that they’re due.
Jayson Calton: Yeah.
Wendy Myers: Yes, absolutely. And that’s one of my messages too. People need to supplement minerals every single day. It’s so important. It’s the underlying cause of disease. Some people just think that their genetics are causing it or what-have-you, and perhaps it’s their diet. Unfortunately, people, they have to supplement every single day in order to be healthy.
Jayson Calton: Yeah, there’s no doubt about it. I mean, we’re talking about minerals. Of course, we talk about the umbrella of micronutrients just so people can understand. There really isn’t a difference. Minerals are just one of the micronutrients we talk about – vitamins, minerals, essentially fatty acids and amino acids all fall under the umbrella of micronutrients.
Mira Calton: They’re essential micronutrients.
Jayson Calton: Yeah, these are essential micronutrients meaning we need them every day like you were saying. And so any time we use the word ‘micronutrient’, we’re of course talking about minerals and all these other things as well. And you’re absolutely right. In fact, potassium, which is a mineral is the most efficient micronutrient – and well, certainly, the most deficient micronutrient that we’re studying right now. The USDA is looking at 93% of America according to the USDA are deficient in this mineral. It’s no better really for vitamins either. Vitamin D is just almost as high as that…
Mira Calton: [inaudible 00:04:39], now they’re saying 90%.
Jayson Calton: Yeah. So yeah, it’s a real epidemic.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, I know. Every single client of mine that I do a hair mineral analysis with, their potassium is just non-existent. It’s just non-existent.
Jayson Calton: It’s very, very difficult to get potassium from our food especially if we’re following one of these low carbohydrate diets or any of these restrictive style diet because most of our potassium comes from carbohydrate-based foods.
Mira Calton: Yeah.
Wendy Myers: Yeah.
Mira Calton: And that’s actually a product that we’re actually going to launch eventually, a potassium product because we’re seeing this so much in the clients.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, that sounds great. I first met you guys on Jimmy Moore’s Low Carb Cruise. It was so great meeting you guys. I was very excited. There were so many interesting people on this ship presenting.
Mira Calton: Oh, we’re already getting ready to book up for next year.
Wendy Myers: Oh, nice, nice. Hopefully, I’m going to go as well.
Jayson Calton: Good.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, but I first heard about you guys on Sean Croxton’s podcast. You were talking about ‘beaver butts’ and it got my attention where you said that artificial raspberry flavoring is from a gland in a beaver butt. That caught my attention to say the least and I immediately went out and got your book. I had been at that stage studying all about food ingredients and how to read food labels, et cetera. I got your book and learned so much more. I thought your book was fantastic!
Jayson Calton: Thank you.
Mira Calton: Well, thank you. Rich Food, Poor Food was like a labor of love. In the first book, Naked Calories, we talked about how we become micronutrient deficient. We believe that we’re ‘food first’ people. We all know that it’s almost impossible in this day and age unless you’re eating very odd, random things to actually get micronutrients from food anymore, but we still believe that food should be your first goals, to eat the most micronutrient-rich foods you could. That’s why we wrote Rich Food, Poor Food because when we said that, ‘eat micronutrient-rich foods’, everyone went, “Hmmm… where are they?”
Jayson Calton: “How do they look like?”
Mira Calton: “What does it mean?” Every single are like, “What’s the most micronutrient-rich milk? How do I find that in a candy bar?”
Wendy Myers: Yeah.
Mira Calton: So that’s actually why we wrote Rich Food, Poor Food. It’s just to make it really simple for people to locate and to navigate through the grocery store to find in every single aisle our favorite picks and even the brand names of which foods have the most micronutrients and the fewest of those poor food ingredients that you were looking at.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, it’s great. It’s really a practical guide as well. Even shopping at Whole Foods, there is a lot of garbage in so-called health foods. So it really helped me realized my veggie burger was garbage.
Jayson Calton: Yeah.
Mira Calton: Yeah, there’s junk in every diet. There’s gluten-free junk, there’s vegetarian junk, there’s low-carb junk and it’s really about those ingredients.
Wendy Myers: Yes. So everyone, I highly recommend their book, Rich Food, Poor Food. I think it’s really essential reading for anyone that’s trying to improve their health.
Wendy Myers: And also, I was really, really impressed by your story of The Calton Project and how you traveled around the world almost mimicking Weston A. Price’s work and trying to see for yourself what he discovered. That seems like you were trying to re-create that. I thought it was wonderful. So can you tell the listeners a little bit about what you did and why you did it?
Jayson Calton: Sure. I mean, the reason why we both decided to go and do this Calton Project, which ended up being a 70- or 135-country expedition on every continent was because we had – I had been working with Mira just before we set out on this because Mira had advanced osteoporosis at age 30. She became a patient of mine and we were able to reverse this advanced osteoporosis by helping her to become micronutrient sufficient.
Wendy Myers: I mean, how does someone become osteoporotic at 30?
Mira Calton: Well, we’re going to talk about some of those tablets that I had. Once we realized the things that I had been doing wrong, it became so crystal clear like I should’ve known it. I mean, if I had looked at the worst possible lifestyle habits, diet habits for sealing calcium, magnesium, those two minerals was so deficient in my life (and vitamin D as well) because of my lifestyle habits and my diet habits. We can go over a few of those if you want also.
Jayson Calton: Yeah.
Wendy Myers: Okay. Yeah, I was blown away when you did your presentation, how you had become such an advanced osteoporosis at age 30. I was really moved by your story.
Mira Calton: Oh, thank you. Yeah, it was a shock. Of course, to be 30 years old, to think that everything is great, you’re indefensible, everything, you’ve got your whole life ahead of you and then to be told that you’re not going to get any better? You’re going to continue to break. You’re going to be bed-ridden and be really having to take a serious hard look, leave my job, quit New York City altogether, move to stay with my family who take care of me during this period, it really breaks you down. And now, I just feel extremely lucky to be able to come forward and say, “This, you can get over this. You can turn over any disease you have. It’s all preventable. It’s all reversible if you simply build back your storage of these essential micronutrients.”
Wendy Myers: And it’s good that it happened to you because that’s how you met your man.
Mira Calton: I know. It’s like double good things happening. And then three things because we went on the Calton Project.
Jayson Calton: Yes.
Mira Calton: So yeah. I got better and I got to travel the world with the man I love.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, so let’s get back to that. Sorry to interrupt you.
Jayson Calton: No. No, no. That’s the important part. That’s really what got us so interested in going out and looking at what’s happening around the world. How was it that Mira, first of all, got so deficient in her vitamins and her minerals from micronutrients that she had osteoporosis at age 30? How prevalent really is that in our society? And more importantly, we wanted to see how we compare here in modern-day America to other cultures around the world, specifically remote tribes. We wanted to go to Papua New Guinea, in the Amazon, in China and then India and go places where people – maybe they see 10-15 people a year outside of their own communities and really look at what are they eating, how are they eating, what is their lifestyle like, do they have any of these lifestyle health conditions that we’re playing with, do they have pre-diabetes or even diabetes, do they have Cancer, do they have high blood pressure…
Mira Calton: …obesity.
Jayson Calton: …do they have obesity, do they have osteoporosis. And if they don’t have those things, why don’t they have them? When do we start to get them in that chain – from remote, to semi-remote to urban? What is happening as these people move through these areas that is causing them to get these diseases? And of course, what we found were several things.
One of the major points that we brought back from the Calton Project was that micronutrient deficiency is the most widespread and dangerous health condition of the 21st century. That’s because it’s affecting almost every single person in the planet. Nobody even knows they’re deficient. And every one of these deficiencies – as you well know, Wendy – has its roots in some kind of a health condition or disease that we’re suffering from. So if we know this – the medical society knows this, we as nutritionists know this – why are we teaching nutrition the way we’re teaching it? Why are we talking about calories? Who cares? Why are we talking about carbs, fats and proteins to the extent that we are? Are they important? Sure. But they’re kind of icing on the cake. Let’s talk about the real important part of nutrition – that’s micronutrients, those are the vitamins, minerals, essential fats, amino acids that our bodies must have or we will get a disease (that’s why they’re called ‘essential’). That’s just what we’re trying to teach. We’re trying to just flip it around. So we put the cart back behind the horse again and we say, “Let’s talk about micronutrients first. And then you come up with any kind of dietary profile you want that suits your lifestyle and that will eventually help you to become sufficient.” So that’s one of the big things we found on the Calton Project. I’m very glad that we got to do it and then we’re planning on going back and doing it again in another six years just to kind of see…
Mira Calton: …see where the tribes have gone, which communities are faring better than others.
Wendy Myers: Oh, okay.
Mira Calton: So we identified what we call EMD’s or ‘everyday micronutrient depleters’. What we did is we found what it was that all these tribes were doing right that we didn’t have here like what was it in our life that was depleting us of these vitamins and minerals that wasn’t occurring over there. What we did is we created Naked Calories, our other book and we outlined every single one of these habits and told you where are you going to run into these road pots, what things are stealing your health, literally stealing the vitamins and minerals that you think you’re getting. We outline them like that, so that it could be easy for people to be like, “Oh, man! I didn’t know I was doing math.” So it’s very clear. Once you start to look at them, you’re like, “Wow! We’re really doing this to ourselves.”
Wendy Myers: Yeah, I’m amazed that some of my clients, they’re drinking coffee every day and not sleeping enough and they’re stressed out and on and on this huge list. It’s just depleting them every single day. Not only are they not taking them in, they deplete them even more. So I really liked that you addressed that in Rich Food, Poor Food.
Mira Calton: Yeah, we always say it’s a two-thronged problem, a) you’re not getting them in (they’re not coming through your food, they’re not coming through the soil, so your food is not going to be delivering them) and then on top of that, b) this is a time where because of the toxic load that you talked about, because of all these things, we’re depleting them even faster through our body. Any few that we did manage to get in, we’re running through them so much faster than ever before.
Wendy Myers: So let me ask you something. What’s the weirdest thing that you ate on your travels?
Jayson Calton: There’s so many weird things. Obviously, maggots. So that’s kind of the mainstay or what you end up getting when you’re in a room of tribes.
Mira Calton: You’re going to get them at some point on every single trip. We’re like, “Okay, when are the maggots coming out?” because a lot of times, there’s no other forms of protein. You don’t have a lot of protein choices.
Wendy Myers: So you didn’t have a box of KIND bars with you?
Jayson Calton: No. No, no, no. We wanted to make sure we did not bring anything in that the tribe – of course, the government were trying to subsidize these remote tribes as much as they could because they want to get their claws in on them, so we’ll bring them. We were at remote tribes where they literally – it looks like National Geographic, right? And then they open some box in the corner that the government sent over and they’ve got cookies or lollipops in there. Of course, they think, “This is great. Look at it. Our government loves us so much.” The kids love it. And the old people, they’re the ones who really love it because they’re attracted to the colors and the sweet taste.
Wendy Myers: Lollilops.
Mira Calton: It’s brand new.
Jayson Calton: So yeah. It spreads very fast.
Mira Calton: It was crazy. We’d be like, “Put those things back please.” We would talk to different communities and be like, “You know what? Give us the list of what the government is offering you and let us mark the things that you should not take.”
Wendy Myers: Yeah.
Mira Calton: …and work with them that way. So that’s why we want to go back because we want to see how much is held, how many communities held out. We know that because we went to a couple of them twice. We had already seen decline.
Jayson Calton: Yeah.
Mira Calton: So we know what we’re expecting would probably not be the pure nations that we have seen before.
Wendy Myers: Well, let’s talk about your upcoming book, Micronutrient Miracle. Can you tell us kind of the genesis of it and why you’re writing the book.
Jayson Calton: Well, we’re writing it because this is the evolution now. So the first book, Naked Calories explained that we were in the middle of a micronutrient deficiency pandemic, how we got there and what we can do about it. So that’s our 3-step plan. Rich Food, Poor Food then took you to the grocery store and said, “Well, let’s show you how to find the rich foods and let’s talk about those lifestyle habits that may be depleting you. And this now is the culmination of those two books. It’s a 28-day plan. We tell you exactly what to do. We give you your grocery store list. We help you to choose your lifestyle habits. We’re going to give you an exact 28-day plan to make you micronutrient sufficient.
Mira Calton: Yeah. And the cool thing about it is it’s not just like a random plan for a random person. It’s actually you go through and say, “What medicines are my currently taking? Okay, I’m marking those up. What micronutrients do those complete?” I mean, literally, it’s so personalized to every single person that’s going to be reading it and they can go for the protocol for weight loss or they can look at just the protocol for high blood pressure and then that tells them which foods to put into the actual recipes that we’re also creating through spices, through everything. So everything for those 28 days is going to be organized for just the things that they have wrong with them, the things that they want to focus on first.
Wendy Myers: That’s what I love about all your books. They’re not just general information. They are practical guides about ‘how to do this, how to navigate the grocery store’, just what you said, what exact foods and nutrients do you need to be taking for different health conditions. I think it’s so wonderful because people need guidance.
Mira Calton: Yeah. People, after they read the other books, they’re like, “Okay, but I need a program. I want a recipe.” Everyone loves recipes. Everyone wanted more information. So people had been asking us to write this book for about two years now ever since – about a year maybe since Naked Calories.
Jayson Calton: Yeah.
Mira Calton: And so we’re finally putting it all together and we’re actually doing the recipes for all different health conditions.
Wendy Myers: That’s great. That’s great.
Wendy Myers: So why don’t we talk a little bit about we know that our food is deficient, so why is the food deficient? Why aren’t we getting the nutrients that we need in our food when we did maybe even a hundred years ago.
Jayson Calton: Yeah, sure. Well, definitely. I mean, it hasn’t been that long so we probably could’ve gotten may of the micronutrients that we need if not all of them from our food. When people say, “Well, the Caltons are saying we can’t get it from our food anymore. Our modern diet isn’t providing that.” Like you said, it was probably around a hundred years ago or so that it really just became impossible and that is for several reasons. Mostly, family farming. The farming, the top soil has almost gone across America. We have huge problems with the dust bowl and over-farming in general America has really wreaked havoc on how many minerals are left in that soil. Then you’ve got the problem of transportation. Most of the food that we’re getting that we eat today on our tables are on average shipped in about 1500 miles. Fifteen hundred miles means that it’s sitting in the back of a truck or a container or a ship for a long period of time being exposed to heat, air and light and heat, air and light are those things that deplete our food of micronutrients. It’s not like mom or grandpa or whoever goes in the backyard when we used to have family gardens or family farms and everything was fresh, picked that day or the day before. It came in, we cooked it up. It wasn’t exposed to heat, air and light for a very long period of time. So that’s changing. We’re also seeing that the animals that we’re eating as far as our proteins are concerned are being raised in unnatural environments and are unnatural foods. The cows a hundred years ago almost exclusively ate one thing – grass, that’s it. There really wasn’t any cow out there eating genetically modified corn or soy because there wasn’t such thing as genetically modified corn or soy. Our chickens are the same way and our fish now. I mean, these fish farms, they’re doing the same thing. They’re feeding them genetically modified corn and soy pellet specifically to animals like salmon which are carnivores. They’ve never even been introduced to a carbohydrate before. So lots of problems there.
Mira Calton: And then also, the glycosides now, the spray that they’re using. The pesticides and herbicides that they’re using on our food is actually starving the plants themselves of the minerals, the mineral issue. It’s crazy because obviously, if we’re starving the weeds around it, we’re also producing really micronutrient-depleted foods. So we’re making our own food worst than it is. I mean, every single that we do! That’s the crazy thing. Jayson and I always like to say, “You could chop, you can dice, you could fry, you could – all these things that you can do to food and you don’t lose the calories, but every single one of these things that we do to food, you lose the micronutrients.” So you just have to be so careful about how where you get your food to try to get the most – of course, in our studies, we did analysis of like all these popular diets. We looked at Atkins, we looked at South Beach, Fast Life, Primal Blueprint, Practical Paleo…
Jayson Calton: Dash Diet…
Mira Calton: …Dash Diet. We actually studied their exact regimens. So three days in each of the programs choosing [inaudible 00:20:57] doing an analysis about how many micronutrients would actually be there and what we found out is if you’re following a diet that’s supposed to make you healthy, chances are you’re only 56% sufficient.
Jayson Calton: At best.
Mira Calton: At best.
Jayson Calton: That was the best any diet yet. And even with the Paleo diets that we looked at and the Primal Diets we looked at, we did the organic and the grass-fed and [inaudible 00:21:24] eggs and the meats, it didn’t do any better.
Wendy Myers: Yeah. I have a lot of clients, they’re actually pretty pissed off when they have been eating a paleo diet for years, they’re like, “Why am I not better?” and I tell them (and their hair tests shows it as well) that just the Paleo diet alone which I think is one of the healthier diets, just that alone does not give you the nutrients you need. It’s not going to cut it. You have to supplement and you have to detox as well to arrive at your health goals.
Mira Calton: Well, the funniest thing is we originally did the study without the two primal paleo diets. And then when we were doing our lecture series, they’re like, “Yeah, they’re not talking to me. I’m on a paleo program” and we’re like, “Okay, we’re getting annoyed at answering this question all the time, so we are going to do it.”
Wendy Myers: Show them!
Mira Calton: We are going to talk to you. And Diane is one of our best friends. She was on the cruise with us as well. The funny thing is we’re like, “We’re so sorry, but we’re going to use your program as one of them.” She’s like, “No, absolutely. I want to know.” So she was actually really open to hearing about it. I mean, she actually takes supplements as well.
Jayson Calton: Sure.
Mira Calton: She takes Nutreince. It’s one of those things that I think awareness and just being honest with where our food is at right now is really, really important because trying to bury your head in the sand and saying, “I can get it from my food,” that’s all you’re doing, burying your head in the sand and nothing good comes from that.
Jayson Calton: Those people listening now may wonder, “Has there ever been any published research showing that any diet of any kind can give you the 27 essential micronutrients that we’re all basically aware, the vitamins and the minerals?” The answer to that is no. No research has ever been shown to be able to show any diet sufficient in 27 essential micronutrients even to the minimum levels. In fact, the American Dietetic Association – everybody knows who they are, these are RDs, right? – they put out a call to all RD’s, “Please come up with any diet within a 2100-calorie limit as long as it’s palatable. We don’t even care what you’re putting in it? Show that you can create a sufficient diet within 2100 calories…” – and it could not be done. It’s never been done. And certainly as we move forward in our modernization will never be done in my opinion.
Mira Calton: And that’s just the first part. That’s just getting them in your body.
Jayson Calton: Yes, forget about the fact…
Mira Calton: That’s before the things that you do in your everyday life. That’s before the stress hits you. That’s before the stress hits you. That’s before you drink that coffee or that glass of wine. I mean, you just get buried deeper and deeper the more you live.
Wendy Myers: Yes, yes.
Jayson Calton: Yeah.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, I feel like the only people that might possibly be getting the most nutrients we could possibly get are people that have their own garden and they’re only eating grass with meats. [Inaudible 00:24:06] is my uncle. He’s a master gardener. He’s had a garden for 30 years. His broccoli is this dark green – it stinks! It stunk up my whole car. It stunk up my whole fridge. I’ve never experienced any vegetable like that and it is really profound. My uncle is probably have a lot more nutrients than I’m getting with my farmer’s market broccoli, et cetera, et cetera.
Mira Calton: Right!
Jayson Calton: Well, yeah. No doubt.
Wendy Myers: He’s doing a lot better than I am.
Mira Calton: Yeah, there’s food and there’s food.
Jayson Calton: Yeah.
Mira Calton: Yeah, food. [Inaudible 00:24:43], they’ve got the most mineral-dense water of almost anybody’s in the world.
Wendy Myers: Oh, wow!
Mira Calton: When you eat the food from there, it tastes. It tastes amazing! You’re like, “Wow! Everything is comfortable and really intense.”
Wendy Myers: Such a huge difference! I know when I went to Egypt, they have the very rich fertile river Nile Delta. The fruits there is just these dark fruits – dark mangoes, dark watermelons. It’s completely different.
Mira Calton: Oh, yeah.
Jayson Calton: Yeah. We think we know what food is when we go to the grocery store. You are not looking at food. That’s what’s become of our food.
Mira Calton: That’s processed.
Jayson Calton: That is not real food. And like you said, when you go to these places and you see these, you see what it really is. A lot of times people don’t realize that micronutrients are the reason your food tastes like anything. So when you go in and you see a big strawberry and it looks really, really red and it’s twice the size that you remember it when you were a kid and you bite into it, it tastes like water, there’s just no micronutrients in it. No micronutrients equals no flavor.
Mira Calton: They grew so fast without really being supplied. Everything is picked too early because they know that they have to ship it all the way across the country. So they pick it still green and then it’s supposed to ripen in the truck. Well, it can’t ripen. It can’t get anything while ripening it because it’s supposed to get clean minerals from the soil, but it can’t do that because it’s not in the soil anymore.
Jayson Calton: Yeah.
Mira Calton: So you’re just getting this random thing that’s growing for no reason in the air and it doesn’t taste like anything and that’s why.
Jayson Calton: Yeah.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, I know a lot of vegetables and fruits, they gas them to ripen them.
Jayson Calton: They just gas them to ripen them, that’s it. That’s right! And more than you think. Most people watching right now, they’re going, “Oh, that’s not my food.” If you buy food from the grocery store, that’s your food.
Mira Calton: Oh, yeah. Yeah, it’s so gross.
Wendy Myers: I know! It’s just so sad how long some of these vegetables from the soil to the market to your plate – like broccoli, it’s been, on average, seven weeks sitting around since it was picked.
Jayson Calton: Sure. Yeah!
Wendy Myers: There’s nothing in it!
Mira Calton: No, I know.
Jayson Calton: There’s still calories in it. Remember that. There’s still plenty of carbohydrates, fats and proteins, but there are very little micronutrients left. I think that’s really the message. When we started this (starting writing books and publishing books) a few years back, nobody was really talking about micronutrients. It was just a few people out there.
Mira Calton: Yeah. They fought us on using the word.
Jayson Calton: No, they didn’t want us to use the word ‘micronutrient’ in our book at all. “Can’t we just call them nutrients?”
Mira Calton: No!
Jayson Calton: I’m like, “It’s kind of confusing.” Let’s really educate people. We think they’re big boys and girls. They can read the word and understand it.
Mira Calton: And the third book that we wrote, that is actually the title. Micronutrients is the title.
Jayson Calton: Yeah, on the cover, God forbid!
Wendy Myers: Ooh…
Jayson Calton: Yeah, I think it’s really important to start talking about this. I know you’re doing great work with your clients and really getting that message out there about minerals. It is a doomsday scenario, that’s the problem. The first two steps – getting enough micronutrients, almost impossible; getting rid of the lifestyle habits that deplete them…
Mira Calton: Lifestyle…
Jayson Calton: …you can do your best. But the fact of the matter is most people are so stressed out, what are they going to do that? They’re going to quit their job and then move to another country. It’s not going to happen.
Mira Calton: You can’t leave the city that has a lot of pollution.
Jayson Calton: …pollution.
Mira Calton: …just because you want a better nutrient balance.
Jayson Calton: Coffee is just going to be that thing that people are going to use that medicate themselves in the morning and wine and alcohol are going to be their medication at night. It isn’t going to stop, right? So we don’t want them to stop. We’re not asking them to change. We just want them to become aware.
Mira Calton: So you see us drinking coffee or a glass of wine just because we know that we are going to replenish that.
Jayson Calton: Yeah. We’re not the worst depleters.
Mira Calton: Yes.
Jayson Calton: That third thing is that third step, which is the supplements. I know you’re big on the supplements and we are to because it really is the only way that modern men and women are going to be able to become micronutrient sufficient.
Wendy Myers: So what are some of these diet and lifestyle habits that are depleting people’s nutrients.
Jayson Calton: Sure.
Mira Calton: Okay, I’ll start with me as the perfect example of the most osteoporosis diet/lifestyle in the world because it’s such a good visual for people. So I woke up in the morning and I used to love my fat-free muffin because I was a huge no-fat person. I’d go to Starbucks which was right below me and I got this sugar-passed fat-free muffin. Sugar blocks calcium and magnesium from entering your body and vitamin C. So not only was I probably getting colds, but I also was absolutely blocking two of the things I most needed for my bones to build. On top of that, I would have coffee. And I, of course, wouldn’t put any cream in it because I’ve gotten fat-phobic. So again, the [inaudible 00:29:19] and the caffeine also deplete micronutrients. Then I would probably be very stressed. I worked at my own company and I had all the stressors every single day and stress makes you run through all of your calcium and magnesium even faster…
Jayson Calton: B vitamins…
Mira Calton: …as well as all the B vitamins and C.
Wendy Myers: Yeah.
Mira Calton: And then, for lunch every single day, I thought I was being so good. I had my spinach salad with fat-free dressing (which I’m sure was loaded with raspberry, vinegar, sugar as you know because that was the front flavor) and some grilled chicken. And so I’m like, “I have all these micronutrients right here in my bowl. Of course, you can’t absorb any of the fat-soluble micronutrients unless it was embedded in the salad. So I was voiding that as well. Additionally, spinach is filled with something called oxalic acid, another deplete of calcium and magnesium. And as I got worst in this, I just continued. I started to dose another habit of mine that really took hold of me and that was Swedish fish.
Wendy Myers: Ah!
Mira Calton: And actually, it’s not just something that I enjoyed doing. It just became such a habit at that point.
Jayson Calton: …an addiction.
Mira Calton: …an addiction. And what I noticed is as I was getting more and more depleted and as I was getting more and more frail, I started craving sugar more. And when you start to look at the reasons why, I would’ve realized that cravings from sugar as a sign of calcium, magnesium deficiencies. And then of course you eat the sugar because you’re craving it and that sugar blocks the calcium and magnesium, the calcium, magnesium being deficient then causes you to want more sugar. And it’s just this completely vicious cycle that you can’t get out of.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, it’s such an odd phenomenon how we crave foods that destroy our bodies. We crave foods that we’re sensitive too. It’s so odd.
Jayson Calton: Well, we crave that sugar because that sugar (and especially salt when we’re calcium deficient), that salt releases the calcium from our bones into our blood stream. So it’s kind of this quick fix that our bodies have started to realize. So that’s why the sugar and salt cravings are so big in our society and why all these food manufacturers don’t just do M&M’s anymore, now we want pretzel M&M’s, now we want salt and sugar at the same time. It’s the holy grail of addiction and we’re all falling prey to it. And then your dinner wasn’t so bad either. I mean, a lot of times when people think, “She wasn’t eating bad. She’s eating fat-free muffin and coffee and a spinach salad with grilled chicken. At her dinner, she had like chicken and Chinese vegetables…
Mira Calton: I always had steamed chicken and Chinese vegetables with the broth sauce on the side. I thought, “That’s great. I’m getting all these vegetables.” Of course, if you ever order steamed chicken and Chinese vegetables, you know the plate is white. Maybe there’s a piece of white broccoli floating around in there, but it’s not really the abundant dense vegetables you should probably be eating.
Wendy Myers: Yeah.
Jayson Calton: Brocolli that’s like ten months old, what can you say? So yeah, it’s a perfect prescription for disease and Mira just happened to get at the perfect combination of the micronutrients that created that osteoporosis.
Mira Calton: Yeah, the wheat in the muffin containing thick acid and the thick acid making my D loss accelerate as well as it blocking the calcium and magnesium again. So literally, every single one of the foods that I was putting in my mouth every day – and if you live in a big city, you probably realize this. When you live alone in a big city, you pretty much eat the same things every single day because you just fall into habits. And so literally, this was my day every day.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, and you eat out with all the inflammatory canola and soy bean oil and table salts and all these things.
Mira Calton: Of course!
Jayson Calton: Everything. That stir fry I’m sure in a – she talked about the stress. She talked about the fact she lived in Manhattan, so that’s a big, polluted city.
Mira Calton: I used to love exercise.
Jayson Calton: She’s had alcohol at night. She was an exercise fiend, sometimes doing two exercise classes a day, another micronutrient depleter. So I mean, it was like, “What wasn’t she doing?” Really, she was doing every single thing.
Mira Calton: And yet there’s a lot of people listening right now who are probably, “That is the healthiest way to live. Working out twice a day, wow! Who has time for that? And then, getting to eat steamed food and nice salad for lunch.” People think this is a recipe for health and really, it was my recipe for osteoporosis.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, I have a lot of my clients that do this compulsive exercise because it makes them feel better and they think it’s really, really healthy. No, people are oxidizing two hours a day or even really, really intensely for an hour every single day, six days a week, it’s so depleting.
Jayson Calton: Yeah. Oh, it is.
Mira Calton: Yeah. We always say it’s like the Gatorade commercial where you see the sweat coming out of her is bright green – it’s all your minerals.
Jayson Calton: Yeah, it’s all your minerals.
Mira Calton: Exactly! That’s how it is, people.
Jayson Calton: It’s another word for mineral or for just micronutrients in general.
Mira Calton: I just wish that they would actually have the Ca, Mg and show what is dripping out. That’s really what it is, not calling it ‘Gatorade’. It’s not what’s coming out of your body.
Wendy Myers: Yeah. I know. Sadly, I had a friend. He was only 48. He’s been exercising two, three hours a day his whole life, surfing, skating, snowboarding, what-have-you and he came out with colon cancer. There’s just that nutrient depletion. He’s had a lifestyle just like you, Mira where he was just completely depleted and over-exercising.
Mira Calton: We can’t tell you what your micronutrient miracle is going to be. The concept is we can’t tell you what your micronutrient miracle is going to be because we don’t know which things you’re currently depleted it. It’s like this really cool combination. For me, it was calcium, magnesium and D – osteoporosis! A lot of people, it’s calcium, magnesium and potassium – high blood pressure. It just depends what you’ve been doing to your body. Sometimes, people will come to us and we’ll put them in the protocol for weight loss and then they’ll write us back and be like, “I don’t need glasses anymore.” I’ll be like, “Well, I guess you have another deficiency in, obviously, your beta carotene nutrient situation” or something like that that’s really interesting. Just becoming sufficient, you not only can get the benefits that you’re looking for, but you get these other benefits that you didn’t even know were out there.
Wendy Myers: I had the same thing. Before I started my program that I do, it’s called Mineral Power, I was creating potato chips all the time, like salt and vinegar potato chips. I just could not get enough of them. As soon as I started taking minerals, I just never even thought about them again. Never thought about it! All these symptoms went away. I’ve got sores in my mouth and teeth sensitivity and all these little things. Of course, I heal my thyroid and adrenals as well (that was my aim), but so many other little health symptoms just fell away, just never returned again.
Mira Calton: Yeah.
Jayson Calton: Yeah. No, it is.
Mira Calton: And that’s the fun of doing what we do. I think what all of us do is that your clients come to you and they’re like, “Well, I have this other really weird thing that I used to get, I don’t get that anymore either.” It’s fun! It makes it really rewarding.
Wendy Myers: It makes me sad that people are doing this really expensive revolving doors with their physicians and the physician has no idea – or most of them – no clue about nutrients or diet or toxicities and the client, for years, go to different doctors just to get the same dead-end.
Mira Calton: And that’s another thing. People don’t realize that the winning way your body gets rid of the toxic things in your body is micronutrient. It’s your body’s natural detoxification system. So that’s another thing. You get deficient another way faster today than ever before because you’re so much more bombarded than ever before.
Wendy Myers: So why don’t you talk a little bit about how we replenish ourselves?
Jayson Calton: So that’s the next problem that we have to face because now we know we’re deficient. We’re probably not getting enough. We know we’re probably depleting ourselves faster than ever before. And now, we’re standing in the middle of the health food stores scratching our head like, “What am I supposed to get?” So when we needed to do research to figure out how to re-mineralize and re-micronutrient-ize Mira to get her bones to rebuild again – even though it was thought to be impossible to rebuild bones at 30 years old. She’s living proof. Ten years now and she doesn’t even have osteopenia. So what we wanted to do is we wanted to find out what was it that was blocking the multivitamin’s ability to be able to really show good results in peer reviewed medical journal studies. I mean, if you look out there, there’s tons of studies on magnesium. There’s no question that magnesium is an amazing mineral and there’s a thousand studies that show how good it is for you. The same thing for Vitamin D and the same thing for zinc and the same thing for every one of the essential micronutrients, mineral and otherwise. But when you look at the multivitamin, there’s like three studies and all of them were kind of like, “Well, it didn’t really do that well.” They tried the grass-fed and some of them say, “Well, it even shows that it could harm you if you take them.” There was a big Forbes magazine article not too long ago, “Death of the Multivitamin.” Let’s get rid of it because these things aren’t working. But in one way, they’re kind of right. There’s a big problem with trying to throw 30-something micronutrients that have never been put together in foods before. There’s no food that has 30 micronutrients altogether in one delivery system because minerals, specifically (and vitamins too), you have something called mineral or micronutrient antagonism meaning that they fight each other for the receptor sites in your body meaning that one will get in at the expense of the other. Sometimes, we know who’s going to win the fight (meaning one is dominant most of the time) and then sometimes, it’s kind of a roll of the dice and it could be either one. And so when we put all of our minerals together in a single supplement like a multivitamin or a multimineral, then it just stands to reason that probably 80% of that is going to go right down the toilet. That’s what we really did a lot of research in on over about six years. Once we realized that they were competing, we mapped out all the vitamin and mineral.
Mira Calton: First, before we actually knew what we were doing, we actually made me – because I was the lucky guinea pig – take hand bowls of each specific micronutrients separate. Some before breakfast, some after breakfast, some before lunch – I mean, all day long, I did nothing but choked out [inaudible 00:39:35]. It was working, so we were happy it was working.
Jayson Calton: That was about 32 pills a day. I think about 10,000 pills a year was taken.
Wendy Myers: That’s what I take and I get really sick of it sometimes.
Jayson Calton: Yeah! She was like, “We’re coming up with a new formula. You’re going to do it. You’re going to do it.”
Mira Calton: I really like you, Doc and I’m probably falling in love with you, but let’s end it.
Wendy Myers: You really can tell you guys spent a lot of time and effort in the design of your Nutreince because it tastes so good.
Jayson Calton: Oh, thank you.
Mira Calton: Oh, thank you.
Wendy Myers: It tastes so good. I know it was not easy to get some of these vitamins to taste good…
Jayson Calton: No!
Mira Calton: No. In fact, the first time we sent it to a lab to have them work with the flavor because people were like they’d like more strawberry, they’re like, “Yeah, this isn’t happening. This isn’t going to taste good.” I’m like, “Well, that’s not really an option. So we’re just going to make it happen.” So we did. We bounce back with three other companies trying to make it taste good and without adding in any binders, any fillers, any excipients, any flow agents, any sugar, anything that we didn’t have to add in and we didn’t put in there. So it’s just literally the multivitamin re-invented and some non-GMO citric acid (which is necessary for the conversion of calcium carbonate to calcium citrate)…
Jayson Calton: …and magnesium carbonate to magnesium citrate. Yeah, if you look up about nutrients, lots of times, we’ll say, “Well, why are you using what they consider to be inferior sources of certain minerals?” It would be inferior to a certain extent over like a calcium or magnesium citrate if it was a capsule or a pill or a tablet because in those forms, you just take it right in by your mouth and it goes right into your stomach and obviously, that’s it. You have to absorb the form that it is. But because Nutreince is a powder, we just pour it into water and there is an ionic conversion that takes place then in the water so we can convert our calcium carbonates and magnesium carbonates into citrates with the conversion of citric acid. So you’re ultimately getting them in more absorbable form, but we don’t need to bulk it up so much with the other forms.
Wendy Myers: A lot of people don’t understand when we see ‘citric acid’ or other ingredients in supplements that it’s not bad.
Mira Calton: Right.
Jayson Calton: Right! Especially powdered, but it can be if it’s too much because then it can become so acidic that it pulls the enamel off the teeth. So that was our fine balance. We said we’ll work with dentists (our dentists particularly) and said, “We want to make sure that – you know, kids are going to be taking this, adults.
Mira Calton: Either, twice a day.
Jayson Calton: So there’s a huge problem with losing your enamel, so we made sure that even though Nutreince tastes good, you’ll notice there’s not real high acidity to it because we kept it in that neutral zone, so that it will not affect the enamel of the teeth.
Wendy Myers: I did notice that because a lot of times, my stomach becomes upset when I take supplements. I was very surprised. I noticed just at a mental note that it was a very mild feeling on my stomach.
Mira Calton: It’s great for pregnant women because that as well. So many pregnant women [inaudible 00:42:32] taking their pre-natals. We made it so it has everything they need. One of the things they need most obviously is folate and where so many multivitamin companies skimp on putting folic acid – which is not a good form. We don’t want to be taking folic acid. It’s a synthetic form, we put MTHRF. They’re saying now about 50% of the population really, really needs that.
Jayson Calton: Because of the genetic flaw.
Mira Calton: Yeah, mutation.
Jayson Calton: So there’s so much research that goes into what we should be doing your micronutrient, what you don’t want in there, what are the beneficial forms, how much do you really need of everything and of course, what vitamins and minerals should be paired and which ones should be separated. So we did all that for you. And in fact, if the people watching now want to look at that, we have a free educational video seminar called the ABCsofSupplementation.com they can go to. They can watch the videos as to why/how we formulated Nutreince.
Wendy Myers: And you have a survey too people can follow.
Jayson Calton: Yeah.
Mira Calton: Absolutely. We’ll give you a link for that as well. Basically, they can go right on and they’d get a snapshot of their life. This is the time to do it because you’re not going to know that you need to improve until you find out that you’re not doing so well to begin with.
Wendy Myers: That’s what I tell them. Don’t wait until you get sick. The time is right now.
Jayson Calton: Don’t wait. It’s so much harder. It’s so much harder in reverse.
Mira Calton: No, right now before you’re headed off of the curb.
Wendy Myers: People are sick for years before they present with symptoms.
Mira Calton: I mean, obviously, I didn’t get osteoporosis overnight. It wasn’t like I woke up one morning and I can’t get up. It was like for weeks and months and probably a year before that, I was like, “My back hurts.” I’m like, “Oh, that’s okay. Self-medicate with coffee. And then have a glass of water before bed. Kill the pain.” It adds up. You stop paying attention to what your body is telling you.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, they numb out. So many people are numbing out with sugar and flour and caffeine and wine, et cetera.
Mira Calton: So the quiz goes over your dietary habits, your lifestyle habits and your supplementation habits. It’s the same analysis that we give to our private clients. You can go on there, it’s 50 questions – it’s a little long, but it’s worth it.
Jayson Calton: It’s free.
Mira Calton: It’s free. It’ll give you a snapshot about where you stand in the sufficiency/deficiency scale and let you know what you should be doing about it.
Wendy Myers: Well, this probably goes without saying – you guys probably answered the question – but I like to ask all of my guests what do you think is the most pressing health issue in the world today?
Jayson Calton: Well, for us, I think it probably is obvious. This is our passion. This is what we eat, breathe, sleep. Everything we do is trying to help people become educated about micronutrient deficiency. Unless we can become sufficient in our micronutrients, no matter what you’re doing to improve your health will ultimately fail because again, it just stands to reason that if you’re deficient in something that’s essential, how can you ever really be have optimum health. So that, for me, personally, that’s kind of my passion and my job here, to get people to understand how important micronutrient deficiency is and how prevalent it is.
Mira Calton: And how easy it is to become sufficient. It’s not hard.
Wendy Myers: Yeah.
Mira Calton: It’s three steps and you can do it. It’s worth it. It’s an investment that you have to make or else you cannot get it back. You really have to be responsible and say, “This, I’m going to do for myself.” And give us 28 days to see if you can do it. I mean, when the book comes out, give us 28 days and you’ll see.
Jayson Calton: You’ll see how fast.
Mira Calton: And you’ll see, it turns around that quickly.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, I remember, a lot of my clients, they start taking supplements (their basic vitamins and lots of minerals) and they feel great. They’re sleeping better. They have more energy just within a 30-day period.
Jayson Calton: Yeah, I’m sure you’re seeing that because it really doesn’t take that long. A lot of people ask, “Well, if I’ve got this deficiency, how long will it take me to get rid of it?” Immediately! So once your body has enough, because they’re mostly water soluble that we’re talking about, as soon as you fill it up – it’s kind of like a glass – once you fill it up, your body is going to start functioning at its normal level. So it takes almost no time.
Mira Calton: And we have sample packs out at our website because the people can taste all the flavors to figure out which ones they like. People write us back because we send out a survey, “How did you like? We’re just curious…” – like we should be, what people liked about it, what people don’t. People, within four days – I mean, only a 4-day samples (because it’s only four boxes) – people would write, “I have more energy already.” That was four days. Don’t you wish you have done that a month ago?
Wendy Myers: Yeah, it is really profound. It’s really profound.
Mira Calton: Yes.
Jayson Calton: Yeah, it really is profound. And not jittery energy, not like taking some kind of these little shots that you see in the drugstores…
Mira Calton: Three hours…
Jayson Calton: Three-hour energy, whatever they are, that’s not energy. Real energy is what we’re talking about, energy that’s just sustainable that feels really good. And that’s what we’re trying to teach people. Before you’re taking a ton of these other supplements, start thinking about the micronutrients first. Get micronutrient sufficient and then all that other stuff, oftentimes, you’ll find you don’t even need it. But then, again, like I said, it’s icing on the cake. There’s great things to do with different herbs and spices and all those kinds of things, they’re all good for you, but unless you’re sufficient in the essential things, those things are never going to fix the problem, the underlying problem.
Mira Calton: And competition really was the one thing that we studied that changed the game for us. Once we realized that putting them all together is negating 80% and once we separated the things that were competing into the a.m. and the p.m. doses, it was just like, “Now, you can finally absorb it.” That really was the 100% game-changer in our supplement research.
Jayson Calton: Yeah, we’re the only people to be issued a U.S. patent on the formulation of the multivitamin. I mean, the patent office told us…
Mira Calton: …over and over again.
Jayson Calton: “I can’t believe this. Your art happens of course on time-release mechanisms” and that kind of thing and codings that they put on there.
Mira Calton: …chelation type of things.
Jayson Calton: …chelation type things for the minerals. There’s a big company that does a lot of that. They have lots of patents on that. But things change when you do that. When you chelate minerals, you remember, you’re not allowing them to absorb on their natural pathways. There’s nothing wrong with it. It gets rid of the competition. But now, it’s absorbing on the amino acid pathway, which is not bad, but sometimes it would be better if you could just let them absorb in their natural pathways and just get rid of the competitions through separating them, which is a totally different way of doing it.
Wendy Myers: Okay.
Wendy Myers: Why don’t you tell the listeners a little bit more about you, what you’re up to and where they can find you.
Jayson Calton: Okay.
Mira Calton: Sure! They can definitely find us at CarltonNutrition.com. We’re at CarltonNutrition on Facebook and at Twitter, as well, I believe. Basically, if you sign up for our blog on the website, it’s a once a week newsletter, so we don’t bombard you. That’s where you find out the coupons that we’re giving out and where you’ll find all of the different things that we’re doing – all the TV appearances that we’re on from time to time. They can read our column first from Women Magazine. And also, we have a really great thing called the Rich Food Resource Center where we have free coupons for everyone online. So they can go to CaltonNutrition.com and lookfor the Rich Food Resource Center. And it’s coupons for the foods that you really should be eating, not the junk that they normally give you coupons for.
Wendy Myers: I thought it was great when I read in your book Rich Food, Poor Food how you would contact all the manufacturers you liked and gotten coupons for those. So great!
Jayson Calton: Yeah.
Mira Calton: Literally trying to get through to them was the hard part. And then trying to explain what you’re doing, they’re like, “What? It’s a book and there’s a coupon?” We eventually got it all done, but it was quite a show.
Wendy Myers: How long have you had your website?
Jayson Calton: I guess about two years now.
Mira Calton: It’s constantly updated.
Wendy Myers: Wow! Yeah, there’s a lot of content out there. You guys have done a lot of work in two years. It’s amazing!
Jayson Calton: Yeah, we have.
Mira Calton: Yeah, we try to keep it busy for everyone. We also do the Cooking with the Caltons segments so they could come on and see us in the kitchen using the nutrients along with our protein, which is In.Power Protein and…
Wendy Myers: I love that! It’s so good.
Wendy Myers: So many of my clients ask me what’s a good protein powder to use. And of course, I only advocate whey protein, complete proteins. Your protein powder tastes so good.
Mira Calton: Can I guys tell you the story? I mean, it’s crazy. Literally, I was like, “Okay, we want one that is USD Organic. We want one that is Non-GMO Project verified. We want the calories to be grass-fed and we want them to be able to prove it.” And so literally, we had to search. There isn’t another one out there. We literally had to find a farm that was making other types that they knew about that was organic and literally work with them to create the whey. It is unbelievably tasty and it tastes like cream kind of and anything you put it in. I use it in a lot of my cooking now. I made muffins with it and everything!
Jayson Calton: Pizza crusts.
Mira Calton: Pizza crusts.
Wendy Myers: It’s so creamy. I use the whey to kind of curb my sugar cravings. I think the whey protein is good to curb sugar cravings. It tastes so good. For me, it’s great to have a resource because I’m asked all the time. Everyone is taking protein powders especially people who are health conscious. And so for me, it’s great, so I can refer my clients to a product that I know and trust, that I know has all these impossible standards.
Jayson Calton: Yeah.
Wendy Myers: It’s grass-fed and organic and this and that. There’s hardly any product. Maybe yours is the only one. I searched on the Internet.
Jayson Calton: It’s the only choice.
Mira Calton: Yeah.
Jayson Calton: It’s the only in America.
Mira Calton: And has only one ingredient…
Jayson Calton: Just single source.
Mira Calton: Whey.
Wendy Myers: Wow!
Jayson Calton: And it’s a concentrate. That’s the key. There are some good tasting isolates out there, but when they isolate the whey protein, you lose – so many lose the fat and you lose all the different things like the lactalbumin and the lactoferrin and the glutathione and all the good things that are in that concentrate.
Wendy Myers: …the whole point.
Jayson Calton: The whole point of it, right. Most concentrates, it’s kind of like wine. If you’ve ever been to a wine-tasting and it’s kind of like you’re, “What is that taste?” It’s like, “Well, they call it barn floor.” Well, I think a lot of proteins are barn floor in them, especially concentrates. But like you said, this one, it’s almost just like fresh cream. So we’re very proud of In.Power.
Mira Calton: We actually put it with our Nutreince. That’s the one reason we didn’t add any flavor to it because we actually put our Nutreince in with our In.Power with a little bit of skinny fat in the morning and we make a triple threat. So it’s kind of like a perfect meal replacement because it has all your amino acids, it’s got all of your essential micronutrients and then it’s got fat to make it more absorbable.
Wendy Myers: Well, tell me about the skinny fat.
Jayson Calton: So skinny fat was something that I’ve been using in my practice for about 20-something years and just telling people to go home and they kind of do this chemistry set at home, “Add this oil to that oil and this one and then heat it and do all these stuff…” Eventually, people were like, “Can’t you just make it?” So I said, “Okay, let’s do it.”
Mira Calton: And we’re going to make it pretty.
Jayson Calton: And we’re going to make it pretty. So what it is, it’s medium-chained triglycerides. So if people don’t know medium-chained triglycerides, it’s derived either from coconut oil or palm oil. These medium chains are fats that cannot be stored in your body as fat. They go directly into your liver and produce ketone bodies. So it’s great for people on low carb people, but it’s even great for people who aren’t on low carb diet because ketone bodies have shown to help Alzheimer’s patients and people with all kinds of memory enhancement. But the great thing about skinny fat is it’s not just pure MCT. If it was pure MCT on its own, it can cause stomach upset plus it doesn’t do something, it doesn’t help to absorb fat-soluble vitamins. You need long chains for that. So what we did is we did a combination of organic virgin coconut oil and MCT’s, just enough long chains to stimulate bio acid and absorb all those micronutrients and just enough MCT to keep the coconut oil liquid with almost no flavor. So you can use it in all your recipes. You can use it in salad dressings just like you would any oil.
Mira Calton: I made coleslaw with it last night.
Wendy Myers: Wow!
Mira Calton: It was so good. One thing the MCT is known for is the flavor enhancer. So anything you make with it, leave the garlic and the spices and all that stuff in for a little while, your dressings will taste ten times more poignant. It’s just amazing how it really enhances all the stuff you put into it. It’s fantastic [inaudible 00:54:52]. I made a coleslaw with it and we had it last night.
Wendy Myers: I’ve been actually using the skinny fat for my salad dressings. I love it because I know there’s a difference in my brain power when I use the MCT’s like it’s a long chain fatty acid as well. When I eat that, my brain works better. I use it to help improve my work performance.
Jayson Calton: For sure. Are you using the regular or the olive? We had an olive.
Wendy Myers: I’m using the olive oil.
Jayson Calton: Yeah, so what we did that is it’s still the same base skinny fat with the coconut and the MCT. And then because the MCT is such a flavor enhancer, adding just a little bit of organic – we sourced organic extra virgin olive oil out of Spain.
Mira Calton: And we sourced, so it really is.
Jayson Calton: We went ourselves, so you know it’s real. And we added it in there. The great thing about it is when you’re using, you’ll notice it tastes just like live oil, but it’s got 85% less omega 6’s, which are inflammation causers, right? A lot of people say, “Well, isn’t olive oil good for you?” Well, theoretically, it’s good for you. But what people have to understand is when you’re trying to keep a balance of Omega 3 and Omega 6, the higher that Omega 6 gets in your diet, the harder it is to catch up those Omega 3’s – and most people never do. You want them about even.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, they’re antagonists too.
Jayson Calton: Absolutely! Right, they are. Even within the families, there’s antagonists too.
Mira Calton: He loves whatever he says. It’s really cool!
Jayson Calton: Yeah. [Inaudible 00:56:18], you can heat as well. But then the Omega 3 thing. But this way, it’ll allow you to keep those Omega 6’s so low that it’s easy for you to catch up with the Omega 3’s.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, I love the skinny fats. I’ve been using it. I’m not even using my olive oil anymore. I’m using the skinny fats.
Mira Calton: Yeah.
Wendy Myers: So I encourage listeners to try it. It’s really, really good. Very good.
Jayson Calton: Yeah. Well, thank you.
Wendy Myers: You guys, thank you so much for coming on the show.
Jayson Calton: It was such a pleasure. It was a lot of fun talking minerals and micronutrients.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, and I’d love to have you guys on again. I’ll come on your podcast.
Mira Calton: That’s a plan.
Jayson Calton: Oh, definitely. We’d definitely want to have you on that.
Mira Calton: And maybe on the cruise.
Wendy Myers: Yes, yes. We’ll have some drinks on the next cruise.
Jayson Calton: Perfect!
Wendy Myers: With a plate of nutrients on the next cruise.
Mira Calton: There you go!
Jayson Calton: That’s right.
Wendy Myers: Well, yeah. You guys are welcome any time.
Mira Calton: Thank you so much.
Jayson Calton: Oh, thank you so much, Wendy.
Wendy Myers: So everyone, thank you so much for listening to the Live to 110 Podcast. You can go on my site if you want to learn more about minerals and detoxification and the modern paleo diet with a little twist on the paleo diet that we have adapted to new foods in our environment. We don’t have to eat a super strict paleo diet. If you liked what you heard on the show today, please give the Live to 110 Podcast a review on iTunes. I would appreciate it so much. Thank you so much for listening to the Live to 110 Podcast.
