#90 Most Health Issues Stem from Copper Dysregulation PART 1 with Morley Robbins


Morley Robbins talks to me about the one of main underlying causes of disease and weight gain today – copper dysregulation. This is Part 1 of 2. Tune in next week to hear Part 2!


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Copper dysregulation is the simultaneous issue of copper deficiency and copper toxicity. This is a little known issue in the medical field, but for those that do know about it, it’s confusing and there is a lot of controversy about how to correct the issue. We’re going to shed some light on this issue today.

Today you will learn:

  • How copper dysregulation (deficiency and toxicity) is one of the major causes of disease
  • Symptoms of copper dysregulation
  • Diseases that are actually copper dysregulation
  • Copper deficiency explained
  • Copper Toxicity explained
  • How can one be copper toxic and deficient at the same time
  • Tests needed to determine copper dysregulation
  • How to correct copper dysregulation with a Mineral Power program

About Morley Robbins

morley robbinsMorley Robbins (aka. “Magnesium Man”) is the founder of the Magnesium Advocacy Group. He has been actively serving the healthcare field for the last 35 years, both as a healthcare consultant and as a hospital executive. Mr. Robbins specialized in developing innovative growth strategies, achieving meaningful alignment around service excellence within organizations, as well as developing optimal organizational design to execute strategy. Prior to his becoming a Wellness Coach, Mr. Robbins served as a principal in several national healthcare consulting firms with a primary emphasis on strategy, market development, and creating consumer-driven organizations.

Since entering the world of wellness, Mr. Robbins has completed the WellCoaches (Boston, MA) training for becoming a Wellness Coach, and has completed the year long curriculum with the Institute for Integrated Nutrition (New York, NY) to serve as a Health Counselor. He is devoting his professional attention to being a “Health Futurist” and delivers lifestyle programs and wellness interventions designed to enable individuals and communities attain healthier futures. He will be preaching to others what he has practiced for the last 30 years.

Mr. Robbins is a regular speaker and author on the changing healthcare landscape, the benefits and challenges of living a healthy lifestyle, and the critical need for individuals to take greater responsibility for their health – with particular emphasis on eating real food and restoring mineral balance.

He has a passionate interest in restoring Magnesium to its majestic and rightful stance as the “Teacher of the Classroom” of the cell’s physiology. He delights in his newfound persona “Magnesium Man!,” and much to his surprise, leading Magnesium researchers claim he is a “lay Mg expert.” Since his rebirth with Magnesium, he has formed a NFP organization, the Magnesium Advocacy Group (www.GotMag.org) which is dedicated to educating the public and health professionals about the central role Magnesium metabolism plays in the human body.

s13Mr. Robbins received a BA in Biology from Denison University in Ohio and holds an MBA from George Washington University in healthcare administration, with additional concentrations in finance and marketing management. He can be reached online at morley@MagnesiumMan.com and by phone at 847.922.8061. You can also gain additional information about the importance of mineral balancing by visiting his YouTube videos.

After writing 1,200 articles on Magnesium and Magnesium deficiency, Morley has come to realize that Magnesium plays a role in all metabolic systems, and is therefore a contributing factor to nearly all major health issues. Through the Magnesium Advocacy Group, he is committed to educating as many people as possible about the MAG-nificence of Magnesium and ending the epidemic of Magnesium deficiency plaguing the health and well-being of human beings.


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Wendy Myers, FDN, CHHC, is a functional diagnostic nutritionist, certified holistic health coach and founder of Myersdetox.com. Her passions include getting you healthy, Modern Paleo, retoxing and detoxing. Discover her Myers Detox Protocol and enjoy freedom from fatigue and brain fog with metal detox.

  • glmrgirl

    I read the transcript and found it very informative if not a bit confusing. Don’t get me wrong…the explanation was very good but kind of hard to follow. I have Hashimoto’s, I’m on bio-identical hormones, take a slew of nutritional supplements and yet I still feel like death warmed over most of the time with no energy or zest for life left and to top it off I cannot lose weight!! I will be looking forward to the next podcast/transcript. I believe this topic may be the key to lifting me back out of this circle of misery that I’m living. Thank you for bringing this subject to light.

    • I hear you on doing everything you can and still not feeling well. I hear this a lot and many times people are not taking the right forms of minerals and incorrect ratios. One can also be very toxic and have heavy metals or chemicals draining them. Then you have to fix the adrenals.People can also have infections and leaky gut, which they are unaware of. It’s also important to balance neurotransmitters. You have to work with a really good practitioner to get all these things worked out.

    • Lainer

      I found it confusing. Maybe break it down to a series of 5 steps to follow to help with the copper issues.

      • Unfortunately it’s not that simple. Copper is a difficult issue. Here are the steps I would take:
        Get a hair mineral analysis
        Get the blood tests recommended in the podcast – histamine, RBc Magnesium, zinc, copper, ferritin
        Follow the supplement, lifestyle, and detox protocols recommended by your practitioner.
        Eat zinc and copper rich foods like liver and red meat.

  • Fruitbat

    Brilliant! Love the detail and the clear explanations, thank you!

  • Tracy

    Wow, this just described my life over the past four years. Exactly. A Spectracell analysis picked up a copper deficiency, along with magnesium and Vitamin C. Since then I’ve been diagnosed with adrenal fatigue and high histamine and a host of other issues mentioned here. Nothing I’ve tried seems to work long term. I’m sick of being sick and tired all the time. I guess I need to try copper? Looking forward to reading part two of this article.

    • I”m so happy this helped pinpoint a potential issue for you.

      When you have High histamine > Body is not able to break down histamines. There is not enough copper to do the work of methylation and implies low methylation. I just interviewed Dr. Albert Mensah of Mensahmedical.com who is an expert in methylation, copper, hair mineral analsysis,etc He is a brilliant doctor. Look for that interview on the podcast at the end of the month.

      An imbalance of zinc, copper, and or histamine can negatively impact your overall sense of well-being and place you at risk for mood disorder, anxiety and or depression.

    • Lainer

      I have the same issues.

  • Jessie

    Re Histamine. I am on the GAPS diet and am having a bad Histamine response to broth and yeasts, does this mean I have too much Histamine which needs to be brought down by copper, b6 and Mag? Or does it mean I have low Histamine.
    This is a problem for me but not quite understanding which way to go with it.
    Ps my serum Copper and Zinc are in normal range though I have the classic normal Transferrin Sat with very low Ferririn

    • If you have low ferritin, this means you have copper deficiency. Hard to say if you also have copper toxicity without a hair mineral analysis. This will cause histamine issues. you have to remove or reduce histamine foods until you fix the issue causing the high histamines like adrenal fatigue.

  • Linda

    Wow!! I suffered with postpartum depression after my second child(24 years ago). I tried copper & within 3 days felt better. Now I am starting menopause and having severe anxiety & depression. I didn’t continue with copper. Yesterday I took a zinc supplement that has copper in it and I feel much better today. Also have been diagnosed with many food allergies. This is so interesting!!

    • Yes, taking copper does make one feel better. But you have to balance your body’s copper and heal adrenals. Low hormone levels will also cause low energy and mood issues. I do adrenal cortisol and hormone testing as well as hair mineral analysis which could help you get to the root of the issue.

  • Scott

    Thank you!!! This is the best interview I’ve ever heard on the topic of copper dysregulation. Looking forward to listening to Part 2 and sharing with friends and family.

  • Mandy Sherrow

    I need help big time! I think this may be a huge piece of my health puzzle. I take 30mg zinc, probably around 5,000mg vitamin c, I was on prescription iron for some time and am now at 174 level ferritin which is higher than I’ve ever seen it. I take t3, I have low cortisol all day and I’m losing my hair at an alarming rate. I take 5-10,000 iu of d3/day, 10,000iu of beta carotene but no vitamin a palmitate. I was taking selenium and gtf chromium but I stopped those this week. I’m trying to weed out anything that could be causing this hair loss now.

    Like I said, I’m in serious need of help. Where do I get the tests needed to find out if my copper is off? What do I do to straighten all this out? I’m so distraught over my health that I can hardly stand to think about it or do anything to fix it anymore. I’m only 34 and my life is falling apart because of this. I’m a personal trainer and I was a model, then I had my son two and a half years ago and my body and health have been in such decline that I can’t even fathom where I’ll be in the next year.

    • HI Mandy! I hear you!
      I can help! Just get a hair test to learn about your copper levels and how to correct it. Get it at https://store.myersdetox.com/products/myers-detox-protocol-includes-hair-mineral-test. I can design a complete program for you to get your body back into balance. I will be able to see your adrenal and thyroid function and your mineral levels. You likely don’t need vitamin D. I would stop that right away. IT is worsening thyroid and adrenal issues. https://liveto110.com/why-you-may-want-to-stop-taking-vitamin-d/

      Don’t worry. A lot of people, including myself, have been in this position where their adrenals and body chemistry is not what it once was. You CAN put things back into balance.

      • Mandy Sherrow

        I thought vitamin d3 was different than just vitamin d. I have depression and am rarely in the sun, so I thought it was helping.

        • this article refers to any type of vitamin D. There is D2, which is plant based and worthless. And D3, which is what most Vitamin D products are composed of. I’m not saying no one should take D. It’s just that testing is ideal to determine whether you need it or not before you start megadosing like you’re doing.

          • Mandy Sherrow

            Okay, that makes sense. My hair loss just started four months ago and I actually attribute it to fish oil. I had never taken it before and I started taking the recommended 2,000mg/day. I started noticing the hair loss two months after I started taking it. I found that it can block estrogen receptors. I have elevated dhea and testosterone but not horribly so. I have low progesterone and normal estrogen, so I think the fish oil definitely played a role but is not the only culprit. I get my thyroid levels checked, all of them certainly not just the TSH, and I didn’t see anything in my numbers this last time that would indicate hair loss.

      • Mandy Sherrow

        Also, I’m taking vitamin e but no vitamin k, does this mean I should also stop taking vitamin e right now? I just added copper back into my regimine this morning after reading all of this. I’m happy to purchase the testing but I know it will take sometime to get it completed and assessed and I don’t want to do any further damage over the time that it takes.

        • You can still take E. That’s fine. I personally just eat raw organic grassfed butter to get my E and K. No need to really supplement. Brie contains a lot of K. I think a lot of people can get their K from food. I personally would not take copper unless you know that you need it or not. There are a lot of people with copper toxicity and should NOT take it. But only testing will tell you .

          • Mandy Sherrow

            Okay, I had been tested for d before and was somewhat low. I’ll keep the e then and just take copper once a week until I know. How long from the time of ordering the test until I’ll have results back? I’m in a race against time to save my hair so that’s why I’m so desperate to figure this out.

          • If you read the article, the storage form of D is what is normally tested and this is NOT the indicator for D that we are looking for to determine whether or not you need to supplement. You need the active form and the RBC magnesium to determine supplementation. and in this case, you need no more than 5000 IU a day MAX.

            It takes about 2 weeks to get the results back, but it’s come back as quickly as one week before.

            If your hair is falling out its from a few issues, mostly copper dysreguation and thyroid issues. This article talks about some other causes of hair loss. It will all get under control on a mineralpower.com program. http://drlwilson.com/ARTICLES/HAIR%20LOSS.htm

  • Linda Simon

    What if you have too much copper? A cerumplasma test showed that I had double the ratio of copper to zinc.I am a vegan and have impaired liver function and as a result have elevated histamine and am also sensitive to certain chemicals e.g fragrances.

    • You would need to do a mineral rebalancing program to correct the issue. Supplement with zinc. You have impaired liver function because phase II of the liver cannot function on a vegan diet. You need taurine and other sulphur containing amino acids for Phase II liver to work and this cannot be found in the vegan diet. I find that people’s health does not improve if they persist in being vegan. I would advise going vegetarian at least or your will continue to have poor liver function.

  • Nicole

    Would someone with Wilson Disease benefit from taking copper, either via supplement or food? It is a rare genetic disorder that prevents the liver from filtering copper. All the literature regarding Wilson’s instructs one to avoid all high copper foods.