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Transcript
- 04:59 About Denise Messenger
- 09:11 Cancer Statistics
- 12:30 How to Prevent Cancer
- 16:11 What to do When You’re Disgnosed with Cancer
- 21:45 Eating the Symptoms of Chemo
- 24:04 Recommended Diet for People with Cancer
- 26:03 Other Things to do if You’re Diagnosed with Cancer
- 29:05 Reasons Why Cancer Reoccurs
- 33:46 Benefits of Infrared Saunas
- 39:33 Closing
Wendy Myers: Welcome to the Live to 110 podcast! My name is Wendy Myers. And you can find me on myersdetox.com and you can find this video podcast on the corresponding blog post on the website or on my Youtube channel, WendyLiveto110.
Today, we have a very special guest, Denise Messenger. She’s the author of Got Cancer? Now What? and we’re going to be talking about what you should do when you are in fact, diagnosed with cancer.
This is something that one in two men and one in three women are faced with in the United States, around the world as well, those are the stats to US and it’s a devastating diagnosis and there’s so much information that people really need to learn and take responsibility for their health.
It’s probably not a good idea just to listen to one physician about your treatment protocol. And so, I do this podcast because I really encourage people to take responsibility for their health and get the information that they need to heal their bodies and save their lives.
So, we’re going to talk to Denise Messenger today about what to do if you are diagnosed with cancer.
Please keep in mind that this program is not intended to diagnose or treat any disease or health condition, and is not a substitute for professional medical advice. Please consult your health practitioner before engaging in any treatment today that we suggest on the show.
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Now, for a little bit about our guest, Denise Messenger is the award-winning author of Got Cancer? Now What?: A Layperson’s Guide for the Newly Diagnosed Her book is a winner in the 2013 International Book Awards and received a 2012 E-Lit Gold Medal Award for Excellence.
She’s was also featured in InspireMeToday.com as today’s brilliants. Because of her love for the written words, she continues to write by contributing articles to magazines, newsletters, and journals. And she’s often a guest speaker in conferences. Currently, she is the radio host of the show, Health Media Now which can be found at BlogTalkRadio.com/HealthMediaNow, where expert guests comprise of doctors, authors, practitioners, and health care providers entertain and share their cutting edge information.
I was recently a guest on there. I’m very honored to be a guest to talk about my upcoming Modern Paleo Survival Guide book, which will hopefully be up at the end of the year.
Denise, thank you so much for coming up on the show.
Denise Messenger: Thank you so much for having me.
Wendy Myers: Why don’t you tell the listeners a little bit about yourself and about your background?
Denise Messenger: Well, relative to the book that I wrote, Got Cancer? Now What? for the Newly Diagnosed. I, myself am a cancer survivor. So during the process of trying to get rid of it, I decided to write a book to help others. And I’m completely cured.
I was diagnosed with two different types of cancer at the same time so I hit the lottery. And rather than look at it from the negative aspect, I decided to put a positive spin on it. And as a result, I think it was very, very helpful in curing both my cancers.
Wendy Myers: Oh, your desk thing broke, behind you. Oops, everything is falling apart!
Denise Messenger: Ugly, right?
Wendy Myers: Oh, it’s fine. I don’t think anyone cares.
Yeah. So, that’s amazing! That’s an amazing story and I read that you were actually in stage four cancer when you were researching and writing your book. Can you tell us a little bit about that?
Denise Messenger: Right. The chronic lymphocytic leukemia was very serious. And when I was initially diagnosed with it they said, “Oh, you’ll probably live into old age with it.” But because of stress in my life, instead of it just staying where it was, it decided to accelerate and in quite a rapid pace. So, before I knew it, there I was with stage four. And I have to make a lot of really important decisions about my treatment. Particularly, when I was diagnosed with them both at the same time, and the breast cancer was there.
So rather than listening to my oncologist, relative to the treatment protocol that he wanted to give to me, I started doing a lot of research. And I decided that, “No. I’m not going to go really aggressive with it.” Because if I do, it could accelerate the CLL and the protocol wouldn’t address the CLL. It was only going to address the breast cancer.
So I decided to just have surgery, have the lump taken out. And then, I did alternative complementary medicine for eight months and it was really, really hard because it was life changing. I had to change my diet. I had to change my lifestyle. Everything that was chemical related came out of my house. Everything that went on my face came off and then I had to start eating organically, so it was a lot going on simultaneously.
Wendy Myers: And that’s hard.
Denise Messenger: And as a result, I was cured and that was much longer than 10 years.
Wendy Myers: I think this is such a great book because there are so many people, one in three people, one in two men, one in three women being diagnosed with cancer.
Denise Messenger: Correct.
Wendy Myers: And including my husband’s uncle just got diagnosed with colon cancer and it’s hard to know what to do.
Denise Messenger: It is.
Wendy Myers: It’s hard to know what to do and there’s everyone that’s telling you to do something different. Do this treatment, do natural, do chemo, do this and that. And so I think this is a really great book for people who have this overwhelming diagnosis and then just don’t know what to do. There’s so much information out there.
Denise Messenger: Right. And what I found too is that, once you receive your initial diagnosis, you don’t know it, but you’re in shock and denial. And people can go in 46 months in that state.
How in the world are you supposed to make life-changing, life-altering, life-saving decisions? Very, very, tough.
Wendy Myers: So why don’t we talk a little bit about how likely are people to get cancer. I mentioned like a rough statistics. Can you talk a little bit more in detail about that?
Denise Messenger:Well, the statistics are growing. Today, it’s expected that one out of every three will get cancer in their lifetime. That’s really, really high. And why is that? You really have to ask yourself, “What is going on?”
Well, what is going on is that our food sources, basically the mineral content are being depleted because of the soil. They don’t put minerals back in the soil in these large corporate farming industries. So that’s why a lot of times you want to go organic. Although recently, even in the organic farms they don’t necessarily put back the good mineral content either.
Wendy Myers: No. some of them use the chemical NPK fertilizers that are giving nitrogen potassium and phosphorus and that’s it.
Denise Messenger: Exactly. So, you have that and then you have all the toxicities in our environment, in our air, in our water, on and on. And generally people don’t think about it. You just don’t think about them on a day-to-day basis, the fact that your body has to process all these toxins. So what do you do?
What you need to do is you need to detox by at least once or twice a year. And there are all kinds of practitioners out there that can help with that. I’m not an expert in it whatsoever. I just happened to know the practitioners that are. And it really is important because it puts a heavy load on your kidneys, on your liver, on your lungs, and what happens is, your immunes function stops. It just stops. And out of that, you’ll end up with cancer and all kinds of different types of illnesses.
And if you have any kind of genetic disposition, then you’re going to probably be more up to get certain cancers over others.
Wendy Myers: Yeah. I was upset. I just recently had some genetic testing, 23andMe.com. With the sterlings up, got a full read-out of what all that means and I found out that I have a tendency for estrogen dependent cancer because my body doesn’t metabolize estrogen so fabulously.
Denise Messenger: Did you check your levels to find out what your levels are?
Wendy Myers: No. I am, I am just about to do the test. I’m just about to do some hormone testing.
Denise Messenger: Oh, you’re just in process.
Wendy Myers: Yeah. I’m just about to do some hormone testing to find out what’s going on with my liver functioning and estrogen level et cetera, but now I’m taking more precautions, taking coffee enemas to help the liver which meant to have a lot of estrogen. I stopped coffee because…
Denise Messenger: How about infrared sauna?
Wendy Myers: Oh, yeah. I do infrared sauna. Oh, yeah. I love my sauna.
Denise Messenger: I have one of those.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, I love, love, love my sauna. Bring in some green juice to help my body detox a little bit. This is my daily baby detox.
But yeah, it’s good to get that information because it gets you on point.
Wendy Myers: Why don’t you tell us a little bit more about how one can prevent cancer?
Denise Messenger: Well, it’s by keeping your immune function really strong. And there’s a multitude of things that you can do.
Vitamin D, almost everyone has very low levels of vitamin D and so one of the best things you can do is, up your intake of vitamin D supplementation. Along with getting a little bit more sun. Direct sun is also very good. All you need is 15 minutes a day.
Wendy Myers: Yeah.
Denise Messenger: But even now, I’m not convinced it’s enough overall to get your levels up. I have my levels checked all the time and I’m still having issues with getting it up to like, 60 range, like in the 30 range.
It’s also really good for flu prevention to have your vitamin D levels up.
Wendy Myers: Yeah.
Denise Messenger: And then also, of course, your eating, trying to keep your sugar intake as low as possible. It’s almost impossible to do. Almost every restaurant, every package good in the grocery store has so much sugar in it. Even yogurt has sugar in it. Everything has sugar in it.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, I know. I just quit sugar. I got really, really serious about it and I had no sugar for a week, and I’m doing okay. I can’t believe I survived. It’s so hard
Denise Messenger: Oh, it is. It’s really, really hard to do.
Wendy Myers: I’m taking the herb called, Gymnema. That really helps with sugar craving. So I think that’s helped me quite a bit.
Denise Messenger: Yeah. I think—what is it—chromium? or one of those, helps too.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, chromium for sure.
Denise Messenger: Is it that one?
Wendy Myers: Yeah.
Denise Messenger: Did you know that once you eat something with sugar in it, it lowers your immune system for 5 to 6 hours? Isn’t that crazy?
Wendy Myers: Yeah, it’s shocking! It is shocking.
Denise Messenger: Yeah.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, and I’ve also heard that when you’re eating sugar, that raises your insulin level and you can get a lot of insulin-dependent cancers, cancers that feed on insulin.
Denise Messenger: Yes. Yes, that’s correct as well.
And then there are all kinds of antioxidants that you can take to also help. A lot of mushroom like Reishi mushroom is really good. I take quite a bit of it to keep my immune system up and strong. It works for me.
And then obviously like I said, your diet. Your diet is everything, and getting enough sleep. And probably even if you do all those things that we just talked about, if you have tremendous stress in your life, it will negate everything.
Wendy Myers: Yeah.
Denise Messenger: Everything.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, It is. I think it is one of the number one causes of illness and disease, and at least to adrenal fatigue and a whole of host of other problems of the body like a domino effect. We have to find a way to reduce stress.
Denise Messenger: Yup. It’s a lot of exercise or medication, or acupuncture, or massage therapy, I mean, there’s so much out there to help you. You just have to go find what works for you.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, you just have to spend all your free time de-stressing. That’s all you have to do. It takes a lot of time to be healthy. It’s like a full-time job.
Denise Messenger: It does, really does so, that you can add on how many years of life expectancy? We don’t know, right?
Wendy Myers: Yeah. So why don’t you talk a little bit about what should someone do when they’re diagnosed with cancer? What’s the first step they should take?
Denise Messenger: Well, one of the most important things is finding the right practitioner to help you.
A lot of times you’re referred to one particular doctor and you got with it, but what I like to encourage people to do is to think outside the box and to do some research particularly about the cancer that you have and what’s available out there. And don’t be afraid to bring that information with you to a couple of different practitioners or oncologist and ask them about these various treatments. They don’t have the time to keep up on all the latest research, that’s why a lot of time, they know specific researchers at specific universities and they’ll call them about your issue, but that’s still only one other take on what it is you have.
So it’s really important to do that because you have choices. You have choices you can make.
Wendy Myers: Yeah. I do get worried for people that they get their doctor there or their oncologist and just do what they say. Just blindly without doing any research, getting no information, just doing what they say and it’s always s going to be chemo and radiation, never going to be alternative stuff or supportive nutritional therapy et cetera, et cetera, detox, et cetera. And that worries me.
I think the doctor only have so much time to dedicate it to your case and as an individual, no one’s going to care as much as you about your overall outcome in your health.
Denise Messenger: Right. Right, it’s your life.
A lot of times, the emotional side of being a recipient of cancer is difficult. It’s difficult for the patient and it’s difficult for the family involved. And it is difficult for the friends that are around you.
Nobody wants to say to you “Go do this treatment.” Nobody wants that responsibility, so where does that lie? It lies within you. And you really shouldn’t put that on somebody else, and that’s the toughest part. It’s like, “Oh, I have a 50-50 chance hear of maybe this working, maybe this not working. So which way am I going to go?”
Wendy Myers: And do you think there is an issue with—if you go to a typical medical doctor, which every one does if they have medical insurance. Is there an issue with that doctor only legally being able to offer you chemo and radiation?
Denise Messenger: They do have a legal obligation. They typical have set protocols for cancers. Sometimes they can mix their concoctions, sometimes they don’t.
Now, there’s a really valuable test out. And it’s through a Dr. Robert Nagourney, and he’s based out of Long Beach, California. And what he does is he takes the pieces of the tumor or he takes the blood. It’s a blood assay test in vitro, which means it’s inside a test tube, but it’s alive. The blood is alive and they will expose it—the cells—to a multitude of different chemotherapy drugs. And at the end of the week, they actually produce a report that they can give to the patient that shows you what you’re sensitive to and what you’re not sensitive to.
Wendy Myers: I love that.
Denise Messenger: So, oh my gosh! Now you have this report that says, “Oh, Fludarabine, that will kill the cancer cells, but oh, this other drug, not at all.”
Wendy Myers: Wow. I love that. I think that’s amazing, to do an individual test to see what you respond to.
Denise Messenger: It is. For some people they don’t have the financial means to pay for. And some insurance carriers in the past would contribute to the cost, but they would never pay for it in full. And it can run around $3000 to $4000 which is a lot.
Wendy Myers: Yeah.
Denise Messenger: But if you look at it you’ll go, “Is that a lot when you consider, it’s going to tell me that this chemotherapy protocol I’m going to go through for 8 months has a higher probability of working than not working?”
Wendy Myers: Yeah.
Denise Messenger: I find it very valuable and I find it very valuable for myself, obviously.
And it took a long time to find him and to find out that there was a test the existed. Because unfortunately, a lot of oncologist either don’t believe in it or they don’t refer you to have it done. And for me, it was the most life-saving thing, to know about it.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, because with chemo, it’s rough. My father died of cancer—he died of cancer treatments, more accurately, but he did chemo. He lost 120 pounds in 5 months and he couldn’t eat.
So, I don’t think chemo is the right option for everyone. I think it depends on the cancer.
Denise Messenger: It does, it does.
Wendy Myers: Everyone’s different. The cancers are different. People’s responses are different to different treatments.
Wendy Myers: But for people that are undergoing chemo, is there anything that can help with easing the symptoms of chemo?
Denise Messenger: If you can find a practitioner that will work with your oncologist or vice versa, if you choose not to go to the chemo way and you’re working with a practitioner, there are herbal supplements out there and vitamins that can help. But you have to be under the care of a doctor or practitioner that knows what they’re doing and that’s willing to work and willing to work together because you potentially could negate your treatment by using certain ones. I would never recommend doing it on your own, never.
For me, I had an entire village. I had practitioners, I had acupuncturists, I had herbalists, I had oncologists. I mean, it was just unbelievable, all the people that surrounded me to help.
But again, some people either don’t have a financial means or they live in a small town where they don’t have access to that sort of thing. There are so many variables involved.
Wendy Myers: Are there any therapies that you recommend once someone’s diagnosed with cancer like some that jut are really helpful for a lot of cancer patients?
Denise Messenger: I really can’t because like I said, everybody is such an individual.
Let’s just say that Suzie is diagnosed with breast cancer, and Chris is diagnosed with breast cancer. They can go to the exact same oncologist, but they may not necessarily be treated the same because the tumor markers may be different. They are at different stages of their cancers. One is operable, one may not be operable. I mean, it’s just craziness. It really is.
One has a genetic component to it. Another one doesn’t. One is estrogen positive, one isn’t. So that’s just a primary example.
Wendy Myers: And so, when someone’s diagnosed with cancer, what is the typical diet that they should be eating?
Denise Messenger: Well, a lot of physicians will recommend that you eat high protein. There’s other that recommend that you strictly go a vegetarian type diet.
For me personally, I ended up really craving protein and of course I had weight to gain because I lost quite a bit of weight before I started treatment. So for me, I was eating a lot of protein, a lot of vegetables. I pretty much eat whatever the heck I wanted and what my body was craving, of course, excluding sugar.
Wendy Myers: Yeah. So you were eating meat, animal protein?
Denise Messenger: Yes, I was.
Wendy Myers: I’ve heard that generally, people should go vegan, but I don’t know, I’m not sure, but of course it depends on the person?
Denise Messenger: I think it really does. When you have like—mine was a blood cancer, so I was having a breakdown of red blood cells and I normally had white blood count. So, I was craving the meats and all to replace my red blood cells that have been crowded out. Where somebody else, they have cancer, but their blood may be fine. It’s just that they got a tumor that they don’t want to continue to feed. And so, probably a physician might want to recommend that they cut out a lot of the carbs in their diet, outside of vegetables, so that they are not feeding the tumor. So, it’s a tough deal.
Wendy Myers: Is there anything else that you want to tell the listeners about what they should do if they are diagnosed with cancer?
Denise Messenger: Well, they probably should get my book because it took me 2 ½ years to write it and it that process, they’re going to learn everything that is—in other words, it’s a guide. It’s a guide that would tell them all the things that they need to do. What to look out for if they are hospitalized. What are the foods that are recommended that they eat? What kinds of tests are available. What are the side effects of potential radiation and what they should look out for relative to the test that involves radiation? And of course, how to interview an oncologist or a physician, what are the questions they need to ask because you have a very limited amount of time when you’re going to visit them. So I actually have questions there for them.
I did all the work for them. It’s all there. Got Cancer? Now What?
Wendy Myers: And are there any other tips that you think the listeners should know? Do we have like a step-by-step process they should go to? Is there a list that they have to check more?
Denise Messenger: Yeah, chapter by chapter really. This is the book here and just going to the content list, I cover the emotional factors, hospitalization, medical insurance, visiting your doctor, selecting doctors, finding oncologists, finding a surgeon, surgeons are very important.
And then, I talked about what is cancer, the survival rates, complementary alternative medicine. I go into the blood and the immune system, which is very important for people to know about. Even learn how to read your blood tests.
And then , I talked about hormones and the toxins, and inflammation, and chemo brain that can happen from chemotherapy. And by detoxification—I mean this is a pretty thorough book about every aspect that a cancer patient’s going to run across.
Wendy Myers: Well, I really commend you for writing this book and especially the dourest that you’re under when you had the stage four cancer. I think it’s really a must read for anyone who’s newly diagnosed or anyone who is currently diagnosed.
Denise Messenger: Yeah, even if you have recurrent cancer, it’s good for that too because you’re going to start the process all over again.
Wendy Myers: Yeah. And why do you think that cancers reoccur? I’ve heard that when you do chemo, that it may not kill the stem cells of the cancer and then five or six years, a new tumor can re-grow. What is your theory behind recurrence rates?
Denise Messenger: I think there’s a multitude of reasons. Again, sometimes, people will go back to the same exact lifestyle that they had prior to treatment. So, what is your outcome going to be? Well, you don’t know.
But there is a possibility if your body is full of toxicity again, and your immune system is lowered again, we all carry cancer cells in us every single day. We all have them. It’s the immune system that takes them out. So you already have a weakness for particular type of cancer. It’s very difficult to kill every single little cell no matter what treatment you get.
So again, if you go back to lifestyle you had before, and if you still have a few of these little cells circulating around and your immune system is like, down and then dumps again, you’re stressed out, you’re exhausted, you’re not eating well, and you’re not sleeping well, what are the possibilities? I don’t know what statistical data is on that. I just know for myself is, I don’t wish to ever get there again. So, you have to have self-discipline and a belief.
And the component of that is also really important is your emotional stability and your outlook on life. They do have statistical data and studies that show, that people, once they’re diagnosed with cancer, if they have a negative attitude about it, and if the physicians said to them, “You’re going to be dead in three months.” Guess what? They buy into it; they believe in it, they’re dead in three months.
If you’re attitude is such that, “I don’t buy into that. There’s’ got to be something out there. I know there’s something out there.” But it takes work. It’s tremendous amount of work. And you have to set aside the emotional trauma that you’re in and try to open up your mind to the fact that there is something else out there and then you have to go find it. And then you have to keep trying different things.
And obviously, it works for people that have more time. I mean, we have a family member and she was diagnosed with lung cancer. And by the time she was diagnosed, it was everywhere. It has metastasized to everywhere. And in that case, that’s a pretty tough one.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, and I think that, I really implore people to really listen to their bodies and tune in because there’s so many—like friends and family members and other stories that I’ve heard, people that are diagnosed with cancer, they have symptoms, they have fatigue. They have unrelenting fatigue a year or two years before they’re diagnosed.
So people, if you are getting fatigue, you need to start looking into the cause. There’s something wrong if you have fatigue.
Denise Messenger: and a whole lot of symptoms too.
Wendy Myers: Mm-hmm, pain.
Denise Messenger: And I guess that denial thing is a very interesting component of it because you don’ want to know. You have a lump somewhere, you don’t want to know what it is because it frightens you and fear will stop you. It will stop you in your tracks of doing anything. It’s easier to go, “Oh, it’s nothing. I don’t need to be worried about it.” And continue on. And courage, there are very few people that have courage.
Wendy Myers: I can only imagine if you’ve been living in not so healthy lifestyle and you’re diagnosed with cancer, and you had to do 100% reversal. You’re doing some alternative therapy or doing juicing every day. Three or six cups of juice which make me want to barf And then eating tons of vegetable, cooking fresh food, not getting fast food and frozen food and things like that. And reducing stress, and maybe working less hours, and, and, and, and, and. That’s tough. That takes courage. It does.
Denise Messenger: Yes, yes. It takes courage. It takes planning and commitment, the two big Cs, Courage and Commitment.
Wendy Myers: Yeah.
Denise Messenger: It’s huge.
Wendy Myers: And then you have to do infrared sauna every day. Why don’t we talk a little bit about infrared saunas and the vast benefits that they have.
Denise Messenger: Well, a lot of people don’t know what an infrared sauna is, but what it does is it’s not a wet sauna. It’s dry.
Literally they’re heat lamps of infrared light, and what it does is it heats up your body. You can set the temperature of the actual unit itself up to like, 145 degrees. I can’t take 145 degrees. It just doesn’t work for me anymore, but it does penetrate to your body two inches. And that’s why when they’ve analyzed the perspiration and the sweat, they can actually see the chemical load in the sweat because it’s baking it out of your fatty tissue and that’s where the toxins live.
So when you start an infrared protocol, you basically have to take it slow at first because it is tough. You have to start like, 15 minutes and then work your way up. But you also—what I know what my practitioner was doing was, giving me a lot of supplements and minerals before I even got into sauna because you can deplete those out of you and then you’re not going to feel good at all.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, you do. You got to be on a serious remineralization program before you’re doing infrared sauna.
Denise Messenger: Infrared saunas were used in a program with firemen that were exposed with the 911 toxicities of the buildings and smoke. And the ones that were chosen for that program and that went through it, their health were improved dramatically as result. So it’s a good thing.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, and it kills cancer cells. It strains tumors, it kills little cancer cells before you even know that you have cancer.
Denise Messenger: Yes, with the heat it you have it up high enough.
Wendy Myers: Yeah. So, I think those are hugely important to prevent and to improve cancer.
Denise Messenger: Yeah. It also helps people with, I believe, heart issues. It does something with your arteries. I’m not sure what.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, I’m sure it detoxes those too.
Denise Messenger: Yeah. Yeah, it does.
Wendy Myers: And improve your blood pressure, lowers your blood pressure a little bit.
Denise Messenger: Yeah. It was part of my protocol with the breast cancer. I did eight months of it.
Wendy Myers: Wow.
Denise Messenger: Two to three times a week. Because I was estrogen positive and we need to get the estrogen out of my body too.
Wendy Myers: Yeah. So, Denise, thank you so much for coming on the show.
Denise Messenger: Oh, I really enjoyed talking with you. It’s been great!
Wendy Myers: Yes, but you’re not off the hook yet. I have one question I want to ask all of my guest.
Denise Messenger: Okay.
Wendy Myers: What do you think is the most pressing health issue in the world today?
Denise Messenger: Oh, that’s a really good question. The most pressing health issue, I think that it all involves stress.
Because then you have a multitude of health issues as a result of it. People are dying of heart attacks. I think 50% is just going up now, actually. And then of course, we’ve got cancer.
I think those two things, heart attacks and cancer are the most pressing of all of them.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, I agree. Stress kills. Stress causes that adrenal fatigue and caused that domino effect. We got to reduce stress, absolutely the number one thing.
Denise Messenger: Yeah, and like I said, there’s genetic component that everybody has with them. You can look down your family tree and you can see the different illnesses and what your relatives have died from, and that’s a mirror into what you can potentially be up again. And so, you need to look at them and go, “Okay, what are the things I can do so I don’t end up like that?”
Wendy Myers: Well, my mother did a lot of genealogy, and a lot of our relatives died of consumption. So, the eldest, I guess, didn’t know what it was back in the 1900s so they just called it consumption so I have to worry about that.
Hopefully that infrared sauna, it helps with consumption.
Denise Messenger: I hope so. You get it there girl!
Wendy Myers: So why don’t you tell the listeners where they can find you, your website, and where they can get your book, et cetera.
Denise Messenger: Got Cancer? Now What? is available on Amazon, it’s also at Kindle, it’s also on Barnes and Noble, it’s also on its own website called, GotCancerNowWhat.com and I can be reached at [email protected] if they have any questions.
Wendy Myers: Alright. And you do personal consulting with the clients as well?
Denise Messenger: No, I don’t.
Wendy Myers: Oh, not anymore. I thought I read that on the website.
Denise Messenger: No. I have my own radio show called, Health Media Now and I talk with experts in the health field and we have some great conversations every Wednesday.
Wendy Myers: Oh, we have something in common.
Denise Messenger: Yes, we do.
Wendy Myers: Talk to the experts.
Denise Messenger: That’s right.
Wendy Myers: Well, again, thank you so much for coming on the show. I really appreciate it.
And Listeners, If you want to learn about detoxification and how to heal your health conditions naturally, you can go to my website, myersdetox.com. You can also learn about the modern Paleo diet, which is my version of Paleo.
Listeners, thank you so much for tuning in. I really appreciate your support every week tuning in. I love doing this. I love disseminating this information to you and hope that you learn one thing that helps you improve your health.
So, thank you so much for listening to the Live to 110 podcast.
Denise Messenger: Bye, bye!
