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- 02:10 About Christine Cronau
- 03:31 Why we need fats
- 04:30 Fat and metabolism
- 05:45 Fats in a healthy diet
- 09:41 The blood type diet
- 11:02 Kinds of fats you should be eating
- 12:25 Fats and heart disease
- 14:49 Fat does not cause high cholesterol
- 20:58 Fats to avoid
- 25:24 The most pressing health issue in the world today
- 27:25 How to increase bile flow
- 28:51 Find Christine Cronau
Wendy Myers: Welcome to the Live to 110 Podcast. My name is Wendy Myers. Today, I’m going to be talking to Christine Cronau who I met on the LIvin’ La Vida Low Carb Cruise that’s hosted every year by Jimmy Moore. We were both speakers on the cruise.
I love Christine’s presentation on fat and her book, The Fat Revolution. I think she had some really interesting points. I loved her energy. We had a really good time on the cruise.
And she’s my doppelganger. We look a lot alike, which we thought was strange. We actually took a photo together both in black and we looked very, very similar. That’s very, very similar. That’s very, very funny.
Christine Cronau: It’s very funny.
Wendy Myers: Yeah. So we’re going to be talking all about fat and why you should be including more of it in your diet – more butter, more meat, et cetera, et cetera.
But first, I have to do the disclaimer. Please keep in mind that this program is not intended to diagnose or treat any disease or illness and is not a substitute for professional medical advice. Please consult your healthcare practitioner before following any diet advice that we suggest on the show.
Christine Cronau is a nutritionist, bestselling author and speaker. After struggling with her own weight and health, Christine transformed her body and her health and spent over ten years researching the facts about food and fats. The results are evident in her groundbreaking book, The Fat Revolution and the Fat Revolution Cookbook. It’s all about dietary truce that had been ignored by conventional health authorities.
Christine’s revolutionary work is captivating and easy to read and is a fascinating look at how we have reached such a mistaken consensus about health. It’s really a good book. I highly recommend it.
Wendy Myers: Christine, why don’t you tell us how you got so obsessed with fats and interested in fat and lecturing about fat all over the world?
Christine Cronau: Well, thanks, Wendy for all your kind words. Well, basically, like many people who are doing this sort of work, I started health, you know, that wasn’t ideal. So I was following all the conventional health advice. I was low fat. I was eating a lot of my whole grains, et cetera, et cetera. And instead of my health improving, it got worse.
I ended up with chronic fatigue, IBS, bloating, all kinds of things, high blood sugar, insulin resistance. After following my healthy diet, I couldn’t understand why I was such in a mess.
So after a lot of research, I ended up finding out exactly what was happening. I found out that my “healthy diet” was actually doing the damage, which was a huge upset for me because here I was trying to do the right thing and I ended up unhealthy.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, I think that’s the case for millions of people around the country. They just can’t get their head around that the diet that they’ve been working so hard to eat is in fact destroying their health.
Christine Cronau: Exactly.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, yeah. It’s a problem a lot of people are having.
Wendy Myers: So can you tell everyone why exactly do we need fat? And is there any reason for people to be fearful of fat?
Christine Cronau: Well, there’s not. The only fat we should be fearful really is modern, conventional, industrially processed fat. So when we started producing fake fats, that’s something that we need to be concerned with. But natural fats, saturated fats especially like butter and coconut oil are fantastic fats. There’s no reason to fear them.
There’s absolutely no evidence to show that they cause heart disease or any other type of disease. And not only that, they actually protect us from those diseases.
So interestingly enough, if you look at the fact that we’ve cut all these fats out of our diets, look what’s happened to our health? Did it get better? It didn’t. And in fact, it got a lot worse. That’s because we need those fats. We need fat and cholesterol for just about every bodily function. And so when we take away, we end up really, really sick.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, yeah.
Wendy Myers: I just recently parted ways with a physician that trained me in hair mineral analysis. He was advising all his clients if they had a slow metabolism to avoid – not avoid fats, but eat a reduced fat diet until their metabolism increased with the theory that it slowed down your metabolism. Can you refute that?
Christine Cronau: Well, absolutely. And in fact, there’s a lot of evidence to show that eating fats (especially full of short- and medium-chained fatty acids such as coconut oil) actually increases our metabolism. So that’s absolutely untrue.
In fact, what happens when we go on low fat diets? Well, people often have hair loss. They have all kinds of things. That’s an indication that their thyroid is being affected. Also, it does slow down the metabolism. It actually damages their metabolism. And the other thing it does is it damages their hormones. So we’ve got a lot of stuff going on when we take those fats out of our diet.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, yeah. I absolutely agree. When I was going to this medical doctor, I always knew intuitively that recommending a low fat diet to people is clearly not going to improve their health in any measurable way at all.
Christine Cronau: Absolutely.
Wendy Myers: And so can you tell us how much fat should be a part of people’s diet, percentages and things of that nature?
Christine Cronau: Are you okay?
Wendy Myers: Yeah, I think my dog walked in. Oh, it’s my daughter! My daughter walked in. Hi, Winter. How are you? Mommy’s recording a podcast right now.
Christine Cronau: Hello. How are you?
Wendy Myers: Hello, Winter. I was going, “What is going on?”
Christine Cronau: I can see shadow actually.
Wendy Myers: Yes! So why don’t you tell people how much fat should people be eating?
Christine Cronau: Well, it really depends a lot of things, but it’s a lot more than people think. And in fact, on my member site on my website, I actually have a calculation where people can go in and calculate their ideal protein intake, their ideal fat intake and their ideal carbohydrate intake because it does vary for everybody.
And it also depends on the state of their health as well. For example, if someone has had years of starvation stress, which is what happens when we go on a long-term low fat diet, we get starvation stress, which is what I was talking about before (it damages our hormones, our thyroid, it damages our metabolism), all those things make a difference. And fat is especially important in those situations.
But I can guarantee that most people who go and do that calculation are shocked. I’m not telling them how much fat is a maximum, I’m actually telling them this is the amount you should be having, this is the amount that’s good for you.
And just as anything, in whole, our family of four eats around two kilos of butter every single week and that’s in addition to other fats like coconut oil or the fat in our meat that we do not cut off. It’s a lot more than people think.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, I remember you mentioning that when you’re speaking at the Low Carb Cruise. I was shocked that you go through a pound of butter every week. But you know, I’ve been using butter every morning in my coffee as well because I drink about half a cup of coffee every day. You go through a lot of butter just with the coffee.
Christine Cronau: You do, you do.
Wendy Myers: Yeah.
Wendy Myers: And so I was reading Dr. Paula Jaminet’s seminal work, The Perfect Health Diet. He’s got about 1000 scientific references in that diet book. It’s an overall diet book. He was talking about how people historically and in breast milk eat about 60% to 70% fat as a percentage of calories in their diet.
Christine Cronau: That’s absolutely right. And in fact, the really healthy society such as the Inuit or the Maasai, they did the same. They eat around 70% to 80% of their calories as fat. And that’s really what we should be doing. It’s how we can support our health.
It really is only recently that we’ve been told that we should not be eating this sort of fat. And in fact, if you look through all the literature and even if you read books – I remember, my husband, Randall was reading a book about the Tibetans. She was talking about how much they loved butter. She said, “Tibetans love butter. We think it’s the cure for everything.” Well, actually it is.
Wendy Myers: Yak butter.
Christine Cronau: Yeah, sure. Yak butter, that’s right. But that’s why these primal groups actually held butter and other fats like that as sacred.
Somehow, in the last hundred – well, not even a hundred years, the last 50 or so years, we’ve suddenly decided that we can cut this vital thing out of our diet that we’ve always held sacred especially for pregnant women, for small children, for the elderly and we’ve decided that we need to get rid of it. It’s absolutely insane once you go back and look at our history.
Wendy Myers: Yeah.
Wendy Myers: And what do you think about the blood typing diet like I’ve heard people with blood type A should eat a little bit lower fat and blood type O should be more fat? Do you put any stock in that?
Christine Cronau: I actually don’t. And in fact, I have read all about the blood type diet and I have had practitioners tell me in the past that I should look into it, et cetera, et cetera. And in fact, I’m an A type…
Wendy Myers: I am too. I am too!
Christine Cronau: Yes!
Wendy Myers: We’re exactly alike in so many ways.
Christine Cronau: That’s exactly right. So we should be vegetarians on that diet and I’ve actually been that. I was vegetarian for five years, I was vegan for one year and my health quickly went downhill.
Wendy Myers: Mine too.
Christine Cronau: And that’s a very common story, right? And it wasn’t like I was a bad vegetarian. I was a very good vegetarian. I combined my foods. I made sure I had grains with my legumes to make a complete protein. I’ve since learned that doesn’t help us. I was extremely protein deficient even though I was doing all those things. So basically, I’ve already tried that and it didn’t work.
And I also think it really doesn’t make sense as a people that we’ve evolved to have different people in the same family, for example, with a different blood type on a different diet. That doesn’t make sense to me.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, it doesn’t make sense to me either.
Wendy Myers: So let’s talk a little bit about the kinds of fats people should be eating. Obviously, you love butter. Why is butter good for you? What other kinds of fats should people be eating?
Christine Cronau: Well, butter is the number one easiest way to get fat and flavor into your diet, for example and it’s so nutrient dense. It’s so full of all these nutrients that we really – a lot of us don’t get anymore (for example, vitamin K2, grass-fed butter is full of vitamin K2). Most people are not getting that nutrient anymore because we’ve gotten rid of all the fatty foods and it’s only really available in things like grass-fed butter, pastured egg yolks, soft cheeses like camembert and brie – all the foods that we really dehumanized over the years.
So most people don’t have vitamin K2 in their diet. So it’s essential for kids for their brain development. It’s essential for their overall development. And not only that, as we get older, it protects us from heart disease.
So there you go, fatty foods, saturated fats protect us from heart disease. So when we take those away, we’ve got a serious problem.
So yes, butter is the easiest way to do that. Especially if you have children, children love butter and it’s a fantastic way of getting vitamin A, vitamin D, all kinds of vitamins, iodine, selenium. It’s just packed, full of nutrients.
Wendy Myers: Yeah.
Wendy Myers: That’s actually going to be my next question. I think it’s shocking or ironic that the American Medical Association (and I’m sure Australia as well), any country obsessed with modern medicine is recommending to their patients if they have heart disease to avoid saturated fat and red meat. It’s actually the exact opposite.
Christine Cronau: It is.
Wendy Myers: Can you explain that a little bit?
Christine Cronau: Well, basically, this is actually a really tough subject because people who go to a doctor, for example, and they’re identified as high risk, say they have high cholesterol or something like that, they’re now going to be put on a low fat diet full and also cholesterol lowering medication.
Now, that actually dramatically increases their risk for heart disease. And that’s why a lot of people – and I’m sure most people know people who have gone through this, who have been put on the standard low fat diet with cholesterol lowering medication and they end up having a massive heart attack. That’s extremely common. So yes, it’s the exact opposite advise to what we need.
Wendy Myers: Yeah. And I can’t help, but almost feel like it’s sort of a conspiracy. When you have someone that’s at risk for heart disease and you put them on the exact diet that destroys their health and put them on medications that further destroys their health, you create this cashcow of a sick person that has to be in medications and then additionally add more and more and more medications and make them sicker and sicker and sicker. That’s exactly what happened with my father. I do feel like it’s a conspiracy to destroy our health for profit.
Christine Cronau: Well, unfortunately, that’s the case. I mean, that’s the major reason that people don’t want this information out. And when I say that, I mean big business because it’s a billion dollar industry. You look at cholesterol lowering medications, it’s the biggest selling prescription medication in the world. And so they don’t want us to know that it’s all a big con basically. They want to continue this whole thing.
And if you look at all that health foundations (and I’m sure it’s the same in the U.S. as well), but our health foundations in Australia are funded by, sponsored by or partnered with big business. Until we can make that separation, until we can separate the health advise from the profit of big business, we’re not going ot be able to rely on that advise that they give us.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, yeah.
Wendy Myers: Can you explain a little bit the mechanisms of how fat actually does not cause high cholesterol, like eating cholesterol does not high cholesterol?
Christine Cronau: Well, it’s got so many variations in the topic. It’s very involved. But basically, the fat we eat has very little to do with the cholesterol in our blood. Our liver makes most of the cholesterol in our blood.
Now, basically, that’s why, for example, you can get someone on a very low fat diet with elevated cholesterol? How are they getting that elevated cholesterol? Because if we want something to heal in our body, for example, if we have inflammation, if we have toxins, we have all kinds of things like that, our cholesterol [inaudible 00:15:35] because cholesterol heals. It’s trying to heal the damage. So if we take that cholesterol away, we’re actually taking away our protection from that damage. We’re actually putting ourselves at risk for heart disease .
And that’s only one aspect, the fact that foods don’t really elevate our cholesterol; it’s our liver.
Now, for example, if you are on a low fat diet, you can also have extremely low cholesterol, which isn’t good for you either. And the reason that can happen is because our liver needs cholesterol and fats to function. So if we’re not eating fat, then it’s hard for our liver to do its job and produce the cholesterol we need.
And that’s why sometimes when we start low carb, high fat, our cholesterol can jump up. It finally says, “Yes, I can produce the cholesterol I need finally.”
So there’s so many aspects to it, but cholesterol is a good thing. We want cholesterol.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, yeah. I noticed that when I was vegetarian – I’ve been a vegetarian for a couple of years, I went vegan for six months. Luckily, it didn’t last very long because I got to the point where I couldn’t even think, I couldn’t even have a conversation with people. I’d sound retarded for a vegan. I didn’t have fats and cholesterol that comprise most of your brain.
So I went to the doctor. my cholesterol was 173 and I knew that was too low and I was very concerned.
Christine Cronau: Yes, that’s right. I had very low cholesterol as well and it took me a long time to get my cholesterol up to a normal level – and now it’s still sitting at a normal level.
Do I want it to stay at what’s considered normal levels for the rest of my life? Probably not because as I get older, I’m going to have more to heal and it’s going to slowly creep up and I want it to do that.
But the total cholesterol is not really what we want you to look at anyway. The most important map is for heart disease are our triglycerides and our HDL for example. And so what happens is a lot of people do low carb, high fat, then they go to the doctor and they say, “Whoa! Your total cholesterol has jumped up” and yet triglycerides have dropped like crazy and their HDL has come up.
What I find really interesting is you often look at the doctor’s scroll on the cholesterol test and they’re saying, they’re circling things saying, “This is bad! LDL is bad. Oh, but this is great. Your HDL to total cholesterol ration is fantastic! And your triglycerides are fantastic!”
How can we have some results that are saying we’re at low risk for heart disease and at the same time, we’ve got results that are saying we’re at high risk for heart disease? We can’t. That’s because that’s the old way of looking at things and we know a lot more about lipidology now than we did back then when we were looking at total cholesterol.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, absolutely. I know in the United States that people are told if their total cholesterol is under 200 – and I think now it’s at 180, they changed recommendations. So if your cholesterol is under 180, you are automatically have to be written a prescription for statins, cholesterol lowering medication. And in fact, lower cholesterol is associated with more deaths than higher cholesterol.
Christine Cronau: Yes. And that’s because of what I was saying before. Because cholesterol help, if we have inflammation, if we have things to heal in the body (which we do as we age), all those studies show in 18 populations, those with the highest cholesterol live the longest. And here we are trying to cut this amazing substance out of our diet and out of our bloodstream.
Wendy Myers: And I know for women in hunter/gatherer tribes, when women approach menopause, a normal cholesterol level is 250. That’s completely normal and healthy. And I hear so many women in my practice say, “Oh, my cholesterol is 220” and they’re really, really worried about it. I’m like, “You’re fine! You have nothing to worry about.”
Christine Cronau: Yes.
Wendy Myers: “You haven’t even hit 250 yet.”
Christine Cronau: Yes, it’s amazing and I think it’s the biggest concern for people going low carb, high fat. “What about my cholesterol? What’s going to happen to it?” Even though they can feel the evidence, this is what they’re hearing from their doctors and it’s scary for them. So it’s a huge concern, but basically, we want cholesterol. Cholesterol is so healing for us. It’s integral to creating hormones, to help our organ function. It actually helps us reduce heart disease, et cetera, et cetera.
So it’s something we do not want to take away. And unfortunately, we still are battling with that idea that this cholesterol is demon, but it’s really not. It’s our friend and we want to embrace it.
Wendy Myers: Absolutely! And I have to work to get my saturated fat. I actively work to adjust saturated fats. I felt, “Oh, I need to eat some red meat today because I haven’t had in one or two days.”
Christine Cronau: Yeah, yeah.
Wendy Myers: It’s the exact opposite of what most people are doing I think.
Wendy Myers: So what fats should people be avoiding? Say the industrial seed oils or high omega 6 fats? What fat should people, when they’re looking at it, considering using in their cooking? Should some red flags be going up for them to avoid it?
Christine Cronau: Well, basically, anything that says ‘vegetable oil’ and anything that says ‘cholesterol free’, anything that’s been processed basically.
Cold-pressed olive oils and things like that are fine. But once we get over to the other bottled oils that they’ve industrially processed – and they might not look like industrially processed, but they really have to put them through some crazy processes.
For example, canola oil. [inaudible 00:21:43] are very intense processing and it’s very, very damaging. And by the time you get that oil, it’s already rancid and damaged and it becomes rancid and damaged further when we cook it because it’s very heat unstable.
So basically, all your modern oils especially margarines or spread – there’s a huge thing at the moment. They’ve changed the name of margarine to spreads because that’s supposed to be healthier and it’s supposed to take away the connotation that margarine is full of trans fats, right? Well, unfortunately, they just changed the process slightly and they’ve come up with these new fads.
They’re technically not producing trans fats, but they’re producing another type of industrially processed fats that acts very similarly to trans fat. But then they say it’s trans fats free and so we can eat it with no problem. Well, it’s not the case.
And also, not only that, not only are those fats really, really damaged, but also they have to bleach it, they have to, they have to [inaudible 00:22:41] it, they have to color it, they have to flavor it.
Wendy Myers: Yum!
Christine Cronau: I know! And don’t forget, things like bleach and all that do not have to be listed on the ingredients because it’s part of the process. It’s not actually an ingredient. So it’s pretty scary. And then they put beautiful flowers and things like that on the outside and make it sound like it’s all natural and beautiful when it’s really quite disgusting.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, it’s really sad to me, again. Some of these fats that people are eating make me very sad. But I’ve gone to clients’ homes and audited their refrigerator and pantry and what-not and every single one of my clients that have high cholesterol, their doctor told them to eat – I can’t believe it’s not butter and Benecol and these fats that destroy heart health.
Christine Cronau: They do. And they’re very, very damaging to the cell. Basically, if you think about our cell, it’s around 50% saturated fat. So if we don’t eat saturated fats, it’s very difficult to keep that cell membrane strong and health.
Now, imagine if we’ve taking damaged fats, so we’re taking these rancid, damaged fats, the actually really get into that cell membrane and make it weak and damaged.
So if that’s the cells that we’re damaging, basically, the cells are the basis of life, that’s why it puts us at increased risk for cancer, increased risk for heart disease and all kinds of things.
And the other thing is that the scientists have been very surprised to find that the build-up in our arteries is not actually saturated fat. It’s mostly poly-unsaturated fats. And guess where that comes from? Heart-healthy vegetable oils.
Wendy Myers: Yeah. Yeah, I think it’s another way I mean that they’re all bottled in these clear bottles. You don’t ever want to eat an oil or fat that is in a clear, opaque bottle; always dark bottles.
Christine Cronau: That’s right because we need to protect those oils from the light and the heat and all that sort of stuff. And not only that, they’ve actually put it through intense heat surprisingly so. So they’re absolutely damaged and disgusting by the time you can get them home.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, yeah. It’s sad when I see beautiful olive oils, olive oils from Italy. You know they were beautifully cold-pressed and extra virgin and they’re in the clear bottle. I’m like, “Hello?” It has to be in a dark bottle. Any kind of oil you eat, coconut oil, everything must be in a dark bottle. Just FYI.
Christine Cronau: Yes.
Wendy Myers: And not to you, but everybody else.
Wendy Myers: So let’s talk a little bit about a question that I like to ask all of my guests. What do you think is the most pressing health issue in the world today?
Christine Cronau: Well, it’s probably heart disease, but it’s probably all the things that come along after that that kind of fly under the radar. For example, modern chronic disease is now just crazy – autoimmune diseases, Crohn’s Disease, all these gut issues.
If you look around, most people are unwell. We’ve come to expect that that’s our level of normal when it isn’t. And for me, that’s the problem. We sort of all bought into this conventional health guideline that’s telling us to eat a certain way.
And that certain way, unfortunately, is destroying our health. It’s destroying our gut bacteria. It destroys our gut health. And of course, the immune system, most of the immune system is in the gut. So if we’ve destroyed our gut health, we’re at higher risk for infections and all kinds of other problems.
And all those other little things, even things like sports injury, which you don’t really think about, but we’ve come to expect that we just degenerate with age. We don’t actually need to degenerate with age. “I’m not so old coming down to die.”
And basically, what’s happening is that Weston’s diet is making us all extremely acidic. And unfortunately, when we’re acidic, all kinds of terrible things happen. It’s the basis for basically most modern diseases.
So going back to low carb, high fat diet, which is kind of how we evolved to eat and getting rid of that acidity by taking things like lemon juice, some orange juice, apple cider vinegar and stuff like that to actually boost our bicarbonate again and actually get our body back into balance, that’s really the key to getting back on track with our health.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, yeah. I agree.
Wendy Myers: And so when people are eating all these fats, they obviously need to increase their bile flow. I find that a lot of my clients, I give them supplements to increase bile like bile salts, OxBile and things like that and they’ll have diarrhea because they’re not producing enough bile to digest all these fats.
So are there any precautions with people that are going from a lower fat to a higher fat diet? Any tips on making the leap?
Christine Cronau: Well, basically, all that’s happening is that our bodies are not used to processing fat anymore because it’s been gone for so long from our diet. So the best thing to do is to take it slowly, to increase fat slowly. If most people went from what they’re doing to what I do, they’d be sick, they’d feel sick and they might be running to the bathroom.
So basically, we’ve got to go one step at a time until our body gets used to it again. But it does! It gets used to it again and then we don’t have those issues anymore.
Wendy Myers: Okay. Yeah, sorry, folks. I got really dark in the video. It was light here 30 minutes ago, but I didn’t turn any lights on.
Christine Cronau: I have to say we can still see you.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, I look like a ghost. The lights glow on me.
Well, Christine, thank you so much for coming on the podcast. That was really informative and I hope place start munching away on fats after they listen to this.
Wendy Myers: But can you tell the listeners what you’re doing, all about, your website, your future plans and your book, The Fat Revolution. And
Christine Cronau: Well, basically my website is just my name. It’s ChristineCronau.com. And yes, the books are available there. Obviously in the States, they are not available in hard copy yet. But they can be bought as ebooks and they can also be ordered from Australia. There’s just a little bit of a wait for them to come over.
Well, we’re just trying to shift the consciousness of facts basically and we’re trying to what I – you know, we have a campaign here called ‘Bring Back the Fat’ because that’s what we need to do to bring our health back.
So basically, it’s just telling people about that. And for example, there’s a massive international conference next year in South Africa, it’s got all the big guns of my campaign, fat-speaking and all these facing over there as well. People like Tim Noakes, Zoe Harcombe, Steve Phinney, Jeff Volek, all the people who had really been doing fantastic work in the low car, high fat field. And you can see changing.
Yes, it’s slow and yes, we get a lot of fight back, a lot of – the health authorities don’t like what we’re saying and they’re going to keep fighting against that. But because they’re not willing to change (and they won’t because like I say, they’re funded by the big business), we’re going to have to bring this movement from the ground up.
And so my goal is to see that everybody in the world has actually heard the message. And then they can make their own choice. But I don’t want to go on like it is at the moment where people don’t know, they have no clue. All they’ve got to go with is what they’ve been told by the health authorities and what they’ve been told by their conventional doctor, et cetera. They don’t know that’s possibly not the right information.
And so I just want people to know the truth and then they can decide what to do with that.
Wendy Myers: And I really wish that there would be some sort of lobby or rising up or revolution to get doctors just cursory nutrition training so that they can properly advise their clients.
Christine Cronau: Absolutely. That’s exactly right. And in fact, there’s a lot of doctors out there and I really upload them who are doing their own investigation to see what’s going on because they do hear about it. And once you have an open mind and willing to go and investigate –
And if you think about it, I know as a nutritionist, for example, if I was a doctor and I had all these patients coming into my surgery and I was prescribing all the right things and it wasn’t working, I’d be really concerned. And that’s why I think a lot of doctors, especially cardiologists now are coming out and saying, “We’ve been trying this for the last 40 years and it’s not working. And what we’ve noticed is this…” These cardiologists especially, they’re right in the middle of it. They can see that it’s not been working.
So I think there’s a lot more doctors out there who would like to admit that we’ve got it wrong, but it’s pretty hard to step out against conventional guidelines. And it does have repercussions. Some of these doctors have really gone through a hard time for speaking out about these topics. But the more of us that keep rising up, the more that keeps bringing the message, then that’s the key.
And I often say I’m only one person, but the fact that we can all work together and the fact that our followers actually spread the message and they say, “Hey, this worked for me” and they tell their friends, that’s how it’s going to change. It’s going to come from the ground up.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, absolutely. We’ll keep fighting the good fight.
Christine Cronau: Thank you. And you too.
Wendy Myers: Thank you so much for coming on the podcast. I hope to see you again. Are you going on the Livin’ La Vida Low Carb Cruise this coming year?
Christine Cronau: Not this year, but we’ve got to log on next year. I think that there’s going to be a lot of change. Although I must say that Jimmy Moore is going to be out here in a few weeks.
Wendy Myers: Ah, he is.
Christine Cronau: Yeah. I can have a chat with him while he’s here. He’s coming out here to speak to people in Australia about what he’s doing.
Wendy Myers: Oh, great! Yeah, I’m not sure if I’m going to go next year or not to the Livin’ La Vida Low Carb Cruise. It’s a mouthful.
Christine Cronau: It is a mouthful.
Wendy Myers: That happens every year in April. Any of you guys, I highly recommend that you go to it. It’s so much fun and you’ll learn so much. I met so many amazing movers and shakers in the health – I highly recommend it. I had a blast when I went.
Christine Cronau: Yeah, it was good. It was fun.
Wendy Myers: Well, again, Christine, thank you so much.
Christine Cronau: You’re very welcome.
Wendy Myers: And don’t hang up yet. Listeners, if you want to learn all about detoxification and my version of Paleo, the Modern Paleo diet, definitely go check out my website, myersdetox.com. If you sign up for my newsletter and email updates, you get a few free downloads – the Live to 110 by Weighting Less e-guide and pretty soon, the Mineral Power e-guide and my Modern Paleo e-guides. Everything is just fusing together. My mouth is no longer working, so I’m going to sign off. Thank you for listening to the Live to 110 Podcast.
