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- 02:28 About Dr. Judene Benoit
- 03:44 “Healing” Our Teeth
- 07:53 Naturally “Healing” Our Teeth
- 10:20 Remineralizing Teeth
- 13:22 Practical Tips for Remineralizing Teeth
- 15:12 Sugar’s Effects on Teeth
- 23:45 Ways to Reduce Amount of Cavity-Causing Bacteria
- 27:38 Recommended Oral Hygiene Regimen
- 30:12 Fluoride
- 32:20 Children’s Teeth
- 34:58 Takeaway
- 36:17 About Dr. Benoit’s Book
- 38:50 The Most Pressing Health Issue in the World Today
- 39:55 Where to find Dr. Benoit
Wendy Myers: Hello. Welcome to the Live To 110 Podcast. My name is Wendy Myers.
You can find me on myersdetox.com. You can also find this video podcast on the YouTube channel, WendyLiveto110. And there, you can also find the Modern Paleo Cooking Show and all kinds of little instructional videos that I’ve done on health.
Today we have Dr. Judene Benoit on the podcast. She’s going to be talking about how to heal cavities naturally. I wonder if that has anything to do with minerals. So find out.
Please keep in mind that this podcast is not intended to diagnose or treat any disease or health condition and is not a substitute for professional medical advice. The Live to 110 Podcast is solely informational in nature and for entertainment purposes. Please consult your healthcare practitioner before engaging in any treatment that we suggest today on the show.
Wendy Myers: I’m finally about to launch the Body Bio Rehab Program. This is a program I’ve been working on for many, many months. I’m very excited that it’s finally going to be coming to fruition.
It’s probably out by now. We’re anticipating a May 1st release. So by the time this podcast is published, it will probably be out already. This program is going to be talking about all the basics of health, diet, exercise, sleep, stress and my favorite, detoxification.
I get so many questions about basic things that have to do with health. What diet should I be eating? How much exercise should I be doing and what type? How do I improve my sleep? How do I reduce stress et cetera? What are the most effective ways to detox? So the answer to all these questions is in this program.
It’s very affordable. It’s $49. There’s a 30-day meal plan. There’s a very specific diet that you follow, the Paleo diet on the program for these 30 days.
It can help you to lose 15 lbs. Some people can lose 15 lbs in 30 days doing a Paleo diet. It can help you to reduce stress and to sleep better. And it just gives you a very good idea of the basic things you need to do to improve your lifestyle and diet and health. I highly recommend it.
Wendy Myers: Dr. Judene Benoit is a dentist in St. Catharines Ontario, Canada. She is passionate about helping people improve their teeth and their lives using simple natural techniques.
Dr. Judene uses a blended approach to dentistry combining information she learned in dental school and research from scientific dental journals along with her love of whole food and holistic thinking to get her clients the results that they seek in her dental practice.
Judene, thank you so much for being on the show.
Judene Benoit: It’s my pleasure. Thanks for having me, Wendy.
Wendy Myers: Why don’t you tell the listeners a little bit about yourself and how you got into dentistry and writing your book?
Judene Benoit: I’m a dentist. I’ve been a dentist for seven years. But I’ve wanted to be a dentist all my life.
My dad was a dentist. And I remember playing with little pink dental mirrors that he would bring home for me as a kid. I said I wanted to help people with their teeth ever since I was a little kid.
So here I am. And I’m in Canada, in Ontario.
Wendy Myers: Okay, yeah. Let’s talk a little bit about if we can heal our teeth and heal cavities. Can teeth really heal?
Judene Benoit: Yes, absolutely. Teeth and cavities can heal. And when you’re speaking proper dental terms, the word heal is only used in reference to cavities that are very, very small, so small that the surface has not been broken yet.
In proper dental terms, when you say that a cavity has healed, it’s referring to a cavity that’s very small. Most people don’t even realize that it’s a cavity because the surface has not been broken. So that’s proper dental terms.
The general public, when they say they want to heal a cavity, what they’re referring to I think is properly termed remineralization and arrest of decay.
So if you say, “I have a cavity,” if someone has a cavity and there’s a hole in the tooth – usually that’s what most people know as a cavity – and they say they want to heal that cavity, technically in proper dental terms, that’s not possible because the tooth structure cannot grow back. So once you have a hole, the tooth structure does not go back.
If you accidentally cut your fingertip off, the fingertip does not grow back. You can’t say, “I’m reversing the process or I’m healing my fingertip back.” It’s the same way with cavities. A missing tooth structure doesn’t grow back.
But the finger can, what seems like, heal. The skin will become hard and there’s no risk of infection. It’s not bleeding. It’s going to function just like a normal finger, very healthy. That’s exactly what can happen with cavities as well.
The surface remineralizes. The minerals are put back into the tooth. And the tooth is functioning in a healthy way. Usually, it does not require a restoration. This is what people walk up and they say they want a tooth to heal I think. And that’s properly termed arrest of decay and remineralization.
Wendy Myers: I love that you talk about remineralization because when I started my Mineral Power Program, which is very much focused on minerals and remineralizing the body, my tooth sensitivity went away. I had horrible tooth sensitivity because I was just flooding my body and my teeth with minerals.
Judene Benoit: That’s awesome. Cavities can be either active or arrested.
An active cavity is when there’s continual demineralization occurring. So demineralization is removal of minerals. Demineralization means that the cavity is progressing. It’s growing bigger. This is never good. So an active cavity is not good.
Arrested cavity has once been an active cavity, but remineralization has occurred. The minerals were put back into the tooth, not missing tooth structure though the tooth does not grow back. But the minerals are put back in and the cavity is no longer progressing. It’s no longer growing. This is always a good situation. Arrested decay is good.
So cavities are not necessarily bad. It’s the active cavities that are bad. Arrested cavities are great. Usually when people talk about a cavity, they’re talking about an active cavity. But technically, there’s active and arrested.
Wendy Myers: How does someone go about healing their teeth naturally?
Judene Benoit: That’s a big question. I got a whole book on how to do it.
When you look at what causes a cavity, there are two important factors. Bacteria plus a susceptible individual equals disease. This combination is actually the same for many diseases and health conditions. For example, someone sneezes on airplane. Some people get sick. Some people don’t.
It’s the same two necessary factors. The bacteria or virus plus the susceptible individual equals the sickness. It’s the same with cavities. Cavity-causing bacteria plus a susceptible individual equals a cavity.
You can address both of those factors, the bacteria factor and the susceptible individual factor.
The most commonly promoted ways in modern dentistry to address those factors, bacteria. We brush and floss our teeth. Susceptible tooth, we use fluoride to harden the tooth. There are lots of other ways that happen to be natural as well that we can do to address both those factors.
Some things that I talk about in my book are saliva, the different factors that relate to saliva, allergies and mouth breathing, even stress. There’s pH buffering capacity, Matrix metalloproteinases, hormones, even dentinal fluid, the fluid within the teeth. All of these things – and of course food, which relate to pretty much all those factors I just mentioned – are ways that people can address both the bacteria and the susceptible individual factors.
Wendy Myers: Are you a fan of ozone, using ozone to kill bacteria in the mouth?
Judene Benoit: Yeah. I don’t know too much about it myself. I don’t do that in my office. But I know dentists that do and they think it’s great. People think it’s great. So yeah, I’m all for that.
Wendy Myers: Okay. Are there some cavities that are impossible to heal? Have you reached a point of no return in healing them naturally?
Judene Benoit: Yeah. So a cavity is caused by demineralization. So the minerals are removed from the tooth.
The more minerals that are removed, the harder it is to replace those minerals back with remineralization. So simply put, the more demineralization, the less likely a tooth will be to remineralize.
Also exposure to saliva is very important. A cavity that has very limited exposure to saliva is going to be very hard to remineralize. Saliva contains the minerals necessary to do a remineralization. So if there’s no exposure to saliva or a limited exposure, then it’s less likely to happen.
For example, the cavities that are in between the teeth where there’s less exposure to saliva are very challenging to remineralize. And so now imagine a medium-sized cavity or a large-sized cavity that’s already challenging to remineralize because those meant a lot of demineralization.
So medium-sized and large-sized cavity in between the teeth, it’s not going to happen. That’s a cavity that people should get filled. If you don’t fill it or do some sort of restoration, then the chances of some sort of disaster happening are very high. A tooth could break. Tooth can be in a root canal extraction. It’s best to get filled and focused on remineralizing your teeth to prevent other problems in the future.
Now the type of cavity that’s very challenging to remineralize are recurrent decays. It’s recurrent decay, so a cavity that’s formed around an existing restoration.
Those are very challenging to remineralize because often the reason for that cavity might not even be the normal reasons like the “bacteria plus susceptible individual” reasons. It could be something to do with the filling itself. Maybe its margins are having issues and the filling needs to be replaced. Usually those cavities are very challenging as well.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, I’ve had this. My sister-in-law is a dentist, an amazing dentist. I had heard she had to redo one of my fillings that had become compromised. She caught a cavity underneath that as well because there are some anaerobic bacteria growing and what have you. So obviously, it’s very difficult to discover those, if they’re under a cavity that’s already been done.
Judene Benoit: Yes.
Wendy Myers: Yeah. Are there any other things you do to help? Are there any practical tips you can give to listeners to remineralize our teeth?
Judene Benoit: Yeah, practical tips. Well, one of the things that I think is so great for people as well-received by parents and adults and especially children is testing the mouth pH.
So children get to spit on a piece of paper and watch it turn color like this. It’s just so fun for them. And it gives really powerful information.
When we have an acidic mouth, that’s when the demineralization is occurring. So a neutral mouth is our goal. So, pH seven is a neutral mouth. We want to strive to have as close as possible to pH seven. Anything below is considered acidic. And you can tell really easily by testing your mouth pH.
If you find that your mouth is acidic, then there are some things that you can do to raise it. The simplest thing is drink some water. It’s usually going to raise most people’s pH for base just by drinking some water.
If that doesn’t do it, then people might need to drink something that’s a little more alkaline like chlorophyll drops in their water or green smoothie. Anything green is very alkalizing. If you’re not sure whether to raise your mouth pH, all you got to do is check.
Wendy Myers: Yeah. What will sugar do to the mouth? I know that sugar will start – when it starts decomposing, it will start creating acids in the mouth and those will start etching away at the teeth. Can you talk a little bit about that?
Judene Benoit: Yeah. Sugar is related to cavities on many levels. The most commonly known one is that cavity-causing bacteria feed on sugar. And the cavity-causing bacteria produce acid as a by-product.
They feed on sugar and then produce acid as a by-product of doing that. So the more sugar you have in the mouth, the more the cavity-causing bacteria to feed on it and produce acid.
And the way acid works with cavities – teeth are made of a molecule called hydroxyapatite. Hydroxyapatite is made up of calcium, phosphate and hydroxyl. Hydroxyl is OH or I like to say HO, hydrogen and oxygen.
So what do we know that’s close to that? We know H2O is water. So this hydroxyl that is [inaudible 00:16:33] that’s in hydroxyapatite has a very strong desire to form water.
In the presence of acid, which is an H, a hydrogen molecule, acid in the mouth will cause the hydroxyapatite molecules to break apart so that that hydroxyl can form water because it would rather form water than stay in the tooth. That’s why acid from bacteria consuming sugar or any acid in the mouth is so harmful to teeth because the hydroxyapatite molecule literally dissolves and breaks apart.
Oh, you’re asking about sugar. There are other negative ways that sugar affects teeth. When we consume it internally –
Inside our teeth, there is a fluid flow. So inside our teeth, there’s dentin. So underneath the enamel, there‘s something called dentin. And underneath that, in the very insides of our teeth is the pulp. So that’s where we got the blood vessels and the nerves.
And there is a fluid that flows from the pulp into the dentin. And this fluid is necessary to protect our teeth from problems like acid produced by bacteria. It’s also very important in developing teeth as well. When teeth are developing, there is a lot of transfer of proteins and minerals between the pulp and into the dentin. And when we consume sugar, the flow of the fluid is reduced.
So studies have shown that children who consume high amounts of sugar will actually have abnormal development of their dentin in their teeth. It apparently affects the teeth and can put them in an increased susceptibility to cavities for the rest of their lives.
Sugar should be reduced on meals.
Wendy Myers: Yes, I agree. Absolutely. So let’s talk about hormones. How do hormones affect cavities in your teeth?
Judene Benoit: Actually my book talked about three hormones. And I’ll just mention those right now. These hormones have been extensively studied in their connection with cavities.
One is thyroid. As thyroid hormones decrease, incidence of cavities increases. This is because a decrease in thyroid hormones is associated with an increase in acidity in the mouth and a decrease in protein content of saliva. A decreased protein content of saliva can hinder the buffering capabilities of saliva.
So when the mouth is exposed to acid, we want to be able to counteract that and neutralize it. And a decreased in protein content of saliva will reduce the ability of the saliva to neutralize acids.
Another hormone that’s been studied with its connection to cavities is estrogen. As estrogen increases, incidence of cavities increases.
So this is due to a few reasons. Estrogen receptors are located in the mouth, in the gums and the salivary glands. And also, it is thought that perhaps estrogen can have something to do with the actual dentin formation.
There is a study that showed that decreasing estrogen levels actually increases dentin formation. I’m not sure exactly how this happens, but they’re thinking that there might be a correlation there.
It is interesting that – this one, I find to be very interesting. In 1979, the Journal of Community Dentistry and Oral Epidemiology published the study looking at birth control and cavities. The researchers never came to an actual definitive conclusion, but there were some interesting results.
The group of women who were taking birth control for the longest amount of time, which in the study was 3.36 years had significantly higher decayed missing and filled teeth. Also all of the women who were taking birth control had significantly higher decayed missing and filled teeth than the women who were not taking birth control.
Wendy Myers: Wow. Yeah. That’s me. I took birth control for a very long time and I have a lot of cavities and fillings and tooth issues.
Judene Benoit: Really?
Wendy Myers: Yeah, I believe as a result. Yeah.
Judene Benoit: There’s another hormone too that’s been studied. And it’s cortisol and the stress hormones like adrenaline. It’s been found that as stress hormones increase, the incidence of cavities increases. This makes sense.
So when you’re in an emergency situation, you want your body to be focusing on helping you with that emergency situation. And it does. All the necessary functions to helping you with that emergency situation are shut down or slowed, so things like liver filtration, digestion and blood flow into the teeth and salivary glands as well.
This is a good process. We don’t want to be asking for a raise at our jobs or competing in a sporting event and having our body focusing on protecting our teeth. We want to be focusing on peak performance, right?
But problems can arise when people are experiencing chronic stress. Their teeth are going to be chronically in a state that puts them to be more susceptible to cavities.
Wendy Myers: How can someone reduce the amount of cavity-causing bacteria in their mouth?
Judene Benoit: There are two ways to do that. One is to actively try to remove the cavity-causing bacteria. The most common cavity-causing bacteria is Streptococcus mutans. You can actually try to reduce your levels of Streptococcus mutans by directly attacking them.
Or you can load up on beneficial bacteria that will be able to reduce the levels of the bad bacteria. It’s like in your gut. You hear about that same idea in your gut.
Some ways to directly attack Streptococcus mutans, there have been some studies that found natural substances such as lauric acid, which is found in coconut oil and milk, iodine, cheese, bioflavonoids which is in grape seed extract and clove compounds, goldenseal, licorice root and xylitol. These are all things that have been shown to directly reduce levels of Streptococcus mutans.
And the other way is introducing high levels of the good bacteria. This is what – I say it’s called re-colonizing the mouth. Things like probiotics, probiotic-rich foods. And now they have probiotic gums and lozenges. You can load up on the good bacteria, which will resist the cavity-causing bacteria.
Actually when our teeth first erupt into our mouth, they’re colonized by bacteria. Usually, those bacteria stay on the teeth forever, unless you do some serious changes like re-colonizing your mouth.
Those bacteria, the same ones, the same type of bacteria are there forever. Even though we reduce levels of them with brushing and flossing, the same type of bacteria comes back over and over and over again.
It’s highly beneficial to have your teeth colonized by cavity-resistant bacteria as opposed to cavity-causing bacteria. So this is something important for parents to know for their children.
Again, the thing that they can help the children that could potentially help them in their lives – there’s a few tests available at the offices that will test to see whether you have a high level of Streptococcus mutans.
I recommend that women get this test who are pregnant or thinking about getting pregnant. If they have a high level, then they can reduce and work at re-colonizing their mouth with probiotic foods and also try to remove the cavity-causing bacteria directly before they have a child. And then hopefully, their child will have their teeth colonized by cavity-resistant bacteria.
Wendy Myers: That’s a good idea. I like the pre-pregnancy planning so your child has healthier teeth. Thanks for going the extra mile. I love it.
Wendy Myers: Let’s talk a little bit about your oral hygiene regimen. I love it when dentists tell me – I always ask them.
When I go to my sister-in-laws or I interview dentists, what are you doing to correct your oral hygiene? What toothpaste do you use and mouthwash, et cetera?
Judene Benoit: Okay. Well, I may not be the best dentist to ask this because I’m so into the internal stuff, like I said, “The bacteria plus susceptible individual equals cavities.”
Right now, I’m really into the susceptible individual stuff. I really focus on boosting my internal resistance to cavities.
My oral hygiene, I don’t really have anything spectacular that I do. But I do really think they’re in my insides. Like you said, you noticed a decrease in your sensitivity when you changed your diet. For sure, it’s the same with me definitely.
What else am I going to say that I do?
Wendy Myers: What mouthwash do you use for instance?
Judene Benoit: I use any mouthwash.
Wendy Myers: Okay. What toothpaste do you use? Or tooth powder or whatnot?
Judene Benoit: I can’t believe you’re asking me this.
Wendy Myers: Well, you’re a dentist.
Judene Benoit: Okay. I’m not saying that what I do is right.
Wendy Myers: Yes.
Judene Benoit: I don’t even use toothpaste.
Wendy Myers: Really? Well, that’s actually good. That’s good.
Judene Benoit: I know it’s so weird.
Wendy Myers: Do you just brush them?
Judene Benoit: I do. Yeah.
Wendy Myers: All right, good.
Judene Benoit: And I’m not saying – people ask me all the time. They’re like, “What’s the best paste do you use?” But I really don’t have a preference.
I think if someone likes the toothpaste that they’re using, then they should use it. If they don’t like it, then they should change it. But I really don’t think that toothpaste is going to make or break things, unless you want to use fluoride.
If you’re into using fluoride, then obviously you want to use toothpaste that has fluoride in it. But if you’re not into using fluoride in a toothpaste – if you like it, go for it. If not, then there are lots of other things that you can do.
Wendy Myers: Yeah. So are you a fan of fluoride? I’m kind of the bent that fluoride can be bad for you. Definitely, when I go to the dentist, I don’t have my daughter do the fluoride rinse or anything like that.
But is it okay for occasional exposure for instance when you’re going to the dentist? I know it hardens enamel. But is there a price to pay for that using the fluoride on a daily basis?
Judene Benoit: Well, that’s when people have to come to a conclusion. People are going to have to come to on their own. It’s a really personal decision.
I mean as a dentist, I see tons of other people. I see people who want to use fluoride and I see people who don’t want to use fluoride. It’s really not my place to say one or the other. I’m here to help people have the mouth that they want.
If they want to use fluoride, that’s personal choice. If they don’t want to use fluoride, that’s a personal choice. The things that I suggest, all these natural things that I suggest can be used and can help people whether you want to use fluoride or not.
And I am really the type of person who – I’m very open minded. I’m not the type of person that’s like, “Do this” or “You’re stupid.” I really want to help people naturally prevent and remineralize their cavities.
I think that if I take some stances one way or the other, I think it could hinder my ability to reach more people.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, I totally understand where you’re coming from.
There are some people – I have some clients that just have their opinion on what they think is healthy and what works for them. That’s what they want to do. I totally understand that stance.
Wendy Myers: But let’s talk a little bit about children’s teeth. Is there something that people or parents should be doing differently for their children’s teeth?
Judene Benoit: Okay, children’s teeth. No, there’s not something specifically different. What’s good for you is good for them. What’s good for children is good for adults and what’s good for adults is good for children.
But for children, it is so imperative to really focus on prevention and remineralization for two reasons. One, children are at higher risk of getting cavities. Cavities progress quicker in children. So they show up to 10 times faster in children than adults.
Let’s say you have one thing to do in a day. And another day, you have a hundred things to do. Which day are you more likely to make a mistake? And obviously, when you have a hundred things to do, you’re more likely to make a mistake.
That’s the same with children’s teeth. There’s a lot of going on. There are a lot of metabolic demands on the teeth. The teeth are developing and they also have to resist cavities. So both those things combined can make higher risk of getting cavities.
Like I said before, it’s during this time when the teeth are developing. And things that parents do for the children during this time will permanently affect them for as long as the teeth are in their mouth. So it’s a great opportunity for parents to really focus on making sure that their children have a good diet.
Wendy Myers: Don’t give them sugar all day long.
Judene Benoit: Sugar. Yeah, sugar and even stress. Stress, like I mentioned, the cortisol will reduce or constrict the blood flow going to the teeth.
That fluid is so important in passing along the proteins and the nutrients from the pulp into the dentin. That’s absolutely necessary for proper development of the dentin. When a fluid is constricted, you cannot have a normal development.
Wendy Myers: What is one piece of advice – if you just tell them one thing, what is one piece of advice you give to listeners?
Judene Benoit: I would say that it is possible to have a healthy mouth you desire and to celebrate your successes. I always tell people to open up and look in their mouth.
If they have these little brown spots on their teeth and they’re seeing a dentist regularly and their dentist never said this is the problem, those brown spots are probably arrested decay. That’s something to celebrate. That’s awesome. You healed your cavity that was trying to start.
Lots of people have arrested decay in their mouths. In my book, I say that they’re brown spot illusions. It is what they’re properly called. They’re considered to be medals of honor. I think people should celebrate them more.
I find so many people are stressed out about their teeth. But it’s time to think happy thoughts about them and celebrate what they’ve done.
Wendy Myers: Yeah. How do you eat all day long? I celebrate my teeth everyday.
Wendy Myers: Why don’t you tell us a little bit about your book, How To Stop Cavities: Natural Approach To Prevention and Remineralization? What kind of chapters do you have in the book? Just give us a little bit of information about it.
Judene Benoit: Sure. I talked about how to tell the difference between active and arrested cavities and what to do at your dental office, how to achieve these arrested decay in your mouth as opposed to having active decays. That’s one important part of it.
And then another important part is all of the things that you can do, specifics about how to change the pH of your mouth, how to improve your hormones so that they can help as opposed to hinder cavities.
I talked about matrix metalloproteinases, which is a really complicated [inaudible 00:37:28], but are related to cavities and other parts of the body. I mean, matrix metalloproteinases are – short form is MMPs. And MMP inhibitors are used in dentistry already. Any dental professional would know about Periostat and Peridex. These are considered MMP inhibitors. But there are some natural things that we can do to help improve our balance. And I explained what MMPs are.
A lot of research, it’s all research-based. I really start to have research backing up everything I say. Yeah, that’s my book.
Wendy Myers: Fantastic. Yeah, I definitely encourage the listeners to check it out. I think it’s very, very important to be paying attention to your mouth.
I’m a big fan of remineralization. I’m constantly agreeing about that on the podcast because I think it’s so important. Our bodies and our teeth desperately need minerals and they’re deficient in the soils. So that’s why people have such bad teeth and we’re getting so many cavities now because we just don’t have the minerals in our foods. So it keeps you dentist with a lot of work.
Wendy Myers: I have a question I like to ask to all of my guests. What do you think is the most pressing health issue in the world today?
Judene Benoit: You’re asking me?
Wendy Myers: Yes. What do you think is the most pressing health issue today?
Judene Benoit: Most pressing health issue I think – this is going to sound so weird, but I actually think it’s emotions. I think it’s stress.
I think once your emotions are doing well and you’re not stressed out and you’re happy, I think all the rest of the health concerns will just fall into place right where they should.
Wendy Myers: Yeah, I agree with you. I think stress is the biggest problem today and it leads to unhappiness and depression and disease. And just people really have to have a lot of tools in their tool kit to reduce stress because we’re so stressed out today.
Judene Benoit: Yeah. Yeah.
Wendy Myers: Judene, thank you so much for coming on the show. Do you want to tell the listeners a little bit about where they can find you and get your book?
Judene Benoit: Sure, yeah. My website is JudeneDDS.com. And you can purchase my book on Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, as well on my website. And you can like me on Facebook as well.
Wendy Myers: Thank you so much for coming on the show. That’s very, very informative. I really appreciate you coming on.
Judene Benoit: Thanks for having me. It’s been great.
Wendy Myers: Listeners, if you want to learn about detoxification and how to heal your health conditions naturally and all about minerals, go to my website, myersdetox.com.
I’m all over social media too on Facebook. You can join the Mineral Power Support Facebook group. I just opened that up to everyone, so anyone can request and join.
Thank you so much for listening to the Live To 110 Podcast.
